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| Poetry Poems, Haiku & Tanka etc. |
08-18-2007, 09:48 PM
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Prose Poetry is Reality:
I never learned to gargle, and I think this has to do with my mind believing that there is some University for Throat Movement. There isn't. So I can't and it burns when I try and I wish I just forgot the whole deal. Maybe I take words too seriously and consider my vocal cords entrepreneurs in only modern lingo and no sort of muffled-liquid-nonsense. I'm a fool. Mirrors make me self conscious and maybe it is my spitting image that makes me refrain from the pulsing of my Adam's apple?
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08-19-2007, 05:13 AM
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Interesting prose. I've never read anything describing gargling.
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08-19-2007, 10:15 AM
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Gargling is a small harsh truth everyone overlooks.
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08-19-2007, 11:25 AM
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Lol, gargling is fun, but I do sometimes scew up. I'm afraid I am not a fan of this form, and though I tried to read it right, it doesn't give me the feel that it belongs in this section. But it was a fun read.
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08-19-2007, 12:26 PM
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But it is a poem. Technically.
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08-19-2007, 12:39 PM
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You know, I've seen paragraph formatted poems, but for a piece like this, I've never been able to figure out why it's considered poetry. I really thought it was a nice read(except for "I wish I just forgot the whole deal"; did you mean "I wish I could just forget the whole deal", or did you write it weird on purpose?) I guess everyone has their weaknesses, and mine is understanding prose poetry as poetry. Could explain to me what I am missing? I feel really dumb about asking, but I would like to know so that I can better appreciate some of the pieces on this forum.
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08-19-2007, 01:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilasir Maroa
You know, I've seen paragraph formatted poems, but for a piece like this, I've never been able to figure out why it's considered poetry. I really thought it was a nice read(except for "I wish I just forgot the whole deal"; did you mean "I wish I could just forget the whole deal", or did you write it weird on purpose?) I guess everyone has their weaknesses, and mine is understanding prose poetry as poetry. Could explain to me what I am missing? I feel really dumb about asking, but I would like to know so that I can better appreciate some of the pieces on this forum.
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Prose poetry is simply poetic style used to modify the syntax of prose, to give prose the similar aesthetic of poetry. That's my best definition.
My work above is not that great an example of prose poetry (I've always been interested in it and have just started trying my hand at it) but just Google prose poetry and I'm sure you'll find some better examples.
The truth is, poets through time have constantly questioned if prose poetry is simply poetry, or prose, or flash fiction. What I like about it is that it is experimental; it's really a combination of all three.
Classifications are useless (in a perfect world, that is). I don't have to read something and know this is poetry or flash or prose or what have you. Is it good?
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08-19-2007, 01:19 PM
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Exactly, this isn't structured like poetry.
Tropes and Schemes
Schemes and tropes are a good place to start when writing poetry... most people get these by intuition, but it takes all kinds, eh?
It's an excellent investment to buy Classical Rhetoric... Corbett (remember that name).
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08-19-2007, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawn
Exactly, this isn't structured like poetry.
Tropes and Schemes
Schemes and tropes are a good place to start when writing poetry... most people get these by intuition, but it takes all kinds, eh?
It's an excellent investment to buy Classical Rhetoric... Corbett (remember that name).
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For the most part, I know how the ideas behind those Tropes and Schemes (thanks for the site by the way) - and I tend to rhyme naturally when I'm writing "normal" poetry or free verse or (insert any other kind).
But prose poetry doesn't have to rhyme...
and it's still poetry.
Right? (Now I'm not so sure).
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08-19-2007, 01:34 PM
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No, poetry doesn't have to rhyme. But it does have to add, subtract, multiply, divide, conquer, reason, espouse, explain, argue, convince, determine... in short... make a point through the clever turn of phrase or juxtaposition of ideas.
I could say: "I went to the store today." That's prose. The poetic form of it (highly exaggerated, of course) would be somewhere around:
"Donning scarf and stripèd hat, I made my way to market place."
This, of course, adding, subtracting, and dividing.
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08-19-2007, 01:34 PM
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Okay, I get it... It's not about rhymes...lol. The problem then, with your piece is that I don't see any of these poetic elements. I hear someone involved in an introspective speech. I like it, I find it an interesting stream of conciousness or set of thoughts, but I don't think it qualifies as prose poetry. I do however, look forward to more attempts from you write a piece of effective prose poetry.
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08-19-2007, 02:23 PM
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I'm not a fan of the whole paragraph thing, but nobody has the right to say this is not poetic or a poem. There is no real definition for poetry anymore. Its been obscured so much.
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09-03-2007, 09:07 PM
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I almost forgot about this one for a day or two and was about to delete it for sanity reasons. See? Do you see?
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