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    Cool Wedding Knight

    OK just got back from my cousins wedding, and had to write this - its the first draft so pick at it till its raw and gimmie them critiques!

    Moist-Eyes follow the individual
    dressed up like a one-time-princess
    waltzing toward her one-time prince

    flowers glide gently to oak floors
    a toddler with a pillow full of the future
    holding to small rings
    to mercilessly rule each others heart's

    A beautiful smile from ear to ear
    holding back tears of happily-ever-after
    arm in arm with dear 'ol papa
    walking down the aisle of ceremony

    Moist-Eyes follow the individual
    dressed like a full-time-queen
    waltzing toward her full-time-king

    the vows of love
    'til death do they part
    and the exchange of their forever rings
    bind these two in sickness and health

    bad times, and troubled times
    may cripple their hearts
    and God knows nature will attempt
    to tear them apart

    but

    their vows of love
    'til death do they part
    the long awaited exchange of forever rings
    shall keep these two bound
    as bad times turn to good

    life will give 'em hell
    but God knows
    with harsh words, and affectionate hugs
    that they'll make it work

    so, my eyes halt
    in a room of teary-eyed family
    watching the crowning
    of this newly wed couple

    'til death do they part
    only to reunite in heaven
    and live forever more
    Last edited by Chiefspider; 05-29-2011 at 02:49 PM.

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    Hey Chief, this is pretty, and normally I don't like pretty, but this I found very appealing. Few things, love, but you did ask for picking. S1, L3, I would have preferred waltzing with, to would apply to music, not your partner. In S2, L1, wood in unnecessary, oak says it all. In L4 others should be the possessive other's. S3, L3, I would have preferred arm in arm. S4, L4 again, I would prefer waltzing with, like the switch from one time princess to full time queen, clever, that. S5, it's either till or 'til and in L4 in sickness and health would work better than for. S6, L1, trouble times would be better as troubling or troubled, bit repetitive following bad, but somehow it worked for me just fine and in L3, God should have a cap. In S7, the till issue again, can't wrap my head around "long passed" so 'splain me Lucy. I get L5, in bad times, turned to good, but think it need some rewording, possibility might be as bad times turn to good, or with bad times turning to good, it's a bit awkward as is. S8, God needs a cap again, wont should be won't, don't really get "insurance won't be any better" 'splain me again, Lucy. I'd break that final line after heaven, it's visually unappealing sticking out so. Yep, this I like, made me feel gushy, I don't do gushy, so thank you for making me feel. Best of luck to the newly shackled, err joined in happy matrimony, couple. My best wishes for a long and healthy marriage. Hope you had fun, Chief, and thanks again for touching piece.

    Best,
    Lisa

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    wow thanks for the critique and advice, made it that much better , and as for the "long passed" I was going for a time trip, when the couple was long since married and looking back on their marriage, but if it doesn't work with the piece lemme know and I'll take it out, and I was going for a tiny pun with he insurance part - didn't work out so I removed it. again thank you , and I'll gladly give you more "pretty" pieces - their not really my forte either, but I wanted to give it a shot, glad you enjoyed it

    EDIT: I decided to take out the "long passed" wasn't doing it for me
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    Thanks for the post Chiefspider. Here are some of my thoughts. As my usual disclaimer goes, this is just the way I see it. Obviously, I'm being very subjective (and a tad bit hard. you caught me in a bad mood). You did ask for picking .

    Eyes follow the individual
    dressed up like a one-time-princess
    waltzing toward her one-time prince


    "Eyes" fails to conjure an image. Perhaps adding "Their" or "The crowd of" or "A multitude of". Just adding an adjective like "moistened" would improve it. I really liked "one-time".

    flowers glide gently to oak floors
    a toddler with a pillow full of the future
    holding to small rings
    to rule each others heart with no mercy


    Very nice imagery. I'm stuck at the last line. Firstly, I would word it "to mercilessly rule" or "to rule without mercy each other's heart". Also add an apostrophe to others. The real problem I have here is that the rings should be symbolic. Keeping the order here makes it seem as though the rings are there for ruling each other's hearts. Are you are saying that the strength of their marriage is for marriage's sake. What about something like: "that shine in the merciless bond of the heart" or "that shine in heart's merciless bond" or "that shine in heart's hard hold".

    A beautiful smile from ear to ear
    holding back tears of happily-ever-after
    arm in arm with dear 'ol papa
    walking amongst a standing crowd


    I like this. Very pleasant. Read next section for note about last line.

    Eyes follow the individual
    dressed like a full-time-queen
    waltzing toward her full-time-king


    Here the scene is developed so eyes wouldn't need to be changed. I liked the repetition of the first stanza, but this stanza also repeats the walking down the aisle image of the previous one. I probably wouldn't remove either one. If you change the last line of the previous stanza, then the image is of the two standing at the back of the aisle. I might say "arm in arm, standing with dear old papa" and then change the last line to reflect a different idea. Perhaps the idea of him preparing to pass her to her husband?

    the vows of love
    'til death do they part
    and the exchange of their forever rings
    bind these two in sickness and health


    Same problem I have here. The rings symbolize more than bind. I only make a point of this because this is a very literal piece and saying the "rings bind" wouldn't fit.

    bad times, and troubled times
    may cripple their hearts
    and God knows nature will attempt
    to tear them apart


    but

    their vows of love
    'til death do they part
    the long passed exchange of forever rings
    shall keep these two bound
    as bad times turn to good


    Same note as before about rings. Otherwise, I really like this section. But makes for a great contrast. Maybe improve contrast below, as I talk about.

    life will give 'em hell
    but God knows
    they'll make it work


    I like the repetitive structure: Vows stanza/life hard God knows stanza. I would have made this last stanza more positive for contrast. Also, this 3 line stanza left me wanting. I understand if you wanted to stop the flow at this point but, IMO the stanza isn't strong enough to make the reader want to pause on it. Here's one idea:

    their escape from hell
    God knows will come
    and with it better,
    and stronger their bond

    so, my eyes halt
    in a room of teary-eyed family
    watching the crowning
    of this newly wed couple


    I don't get your first line. Are you halting watching the crowning? That doesn't seem to fit here. Because of the poems literal nature, I would use a different image.

    'til death do they part
    only to reunite in heaven
    and live forever more


    Good ending. I liked the way you expanded on your repeated phrase here.

    Forgive me if I was harsh. This was an enjoyable read for sure. Please feel free to find something I've posted and pay me back!
    Last edited by Flapjack; 05-29-2011 at 05:59 AM.
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    I like it Chief. This reminded me of my best friends wedding. Very nice.
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    @FlapJack Well you certainly had no mercy on me lol, first of I wanna start by saying my meaning in "bind/bound" with the rings is not to symbolize the "ball 'n chain" type thing, but to symbolize their connection through ceremony with the rings that rule each others heart now as one. and the mercy part was not to be meant as a harsh term, but more of a I'll have no mercy in loving you.

    Now! I tried your idea with the adjectives one my first two repetitive stanzas, and I like it note I still have Eyes caped, only because I feel it is important to keep them emphasized. and I tried to change the last line on S3, I like it as much as I did the other line, so let me know if you still think it doesn't flow. with S9 I kept the mood the same, but added a line to end your wanting hope it fits with the vibe, and the "so,my eyes halt" is supposed to let you know that I am the narrator of the poem, and I halted because my eyes were following the bride and when she stopped at the alter so did my eyes.

    and no worries I asked for picking lol, but I shall sure try my best to pay you back XD

    and @ scot glad you like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefspider View Post
    but added a line to end your wanting hope it fits with the vibe, and the "so,my eyes halt" is supposed to let you know that I am the narrator of the poem, and I halted because my eyes were following the bride and when she stopped at the alter so did my eyes.
    I need to stop being critical!

    Watery sounds weak. It probably lessens the line from what you had originally.

    I kind of assumed that was the reason you said halt, but you have already discussed the vows. For us humble readers, we are already imagining the closing of the wedding ceremony. That is why, your eyes halting from watching the bride walk to the alter, seems out of place.

    Once again, forgive my harshitude. Your poem deserves much better .
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    Narrative pieces always give the writer a chance to throw in their own perspective and you've definitely shown yours in this piece Chief.

    I have a few little suggestions

    bad times, and troubled times
    may cripple their hearts -> may cripple their hearts.
    and God knows nature will attempt -> God knows nature will try
    to tear them apart

    their vows of love -> The long-awaited exchange
    'til death do they part -> of forever rings and vows of love
    the long awaited exchange of forever rings -> shall keep this pair bound
    shall keep these two bound -> till troubled times turn,
    as bad times turn to good -> or death do they part

    I hope I'm not taking too many liberties with your work (if I am let me know) and that you find these revisions worth considering.
    -Ian

    I just wanted to add I also really liked the transition of princess to queen and the attention to physical details like the floor, rings etc in a poem that is much more centered on the spiritual union of two people.
    Last edited by ISeeBull; 05-29-2011 at 08:27 AM. Reason: forgot to mention...

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    @flapjack lol you weren't harsh you were truthful, witch is what I wanted I enjoyed your critique and it helped me to better it, and other pieces in the furutre.

    @ISeeBull thank you for the compliments and critique ,but I think I might keep it the way it is , I'm happy with its current state thanks again for the critique! and you weren't overstepping your boundaries at all
    Last edited by Chiefspider; 05-29-2011 at 02:52 PM.

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