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    The Desert | LM Poetry Challenge Scores

    Good job on your submissions, everyone. Now... onto the scores.

    Mirror

    Title: The Desert Rose
    Author: vangoghsear


    Not a novel idea, yet well-approached. I detect an underlying circularity – somewhat progressive as you interweave wilted creativity with the merciless ministrations of time. Imagery trickles until the last stanza, in which I question the repetition. Poem would have been more powerfully transmitted without it (in a less list-like manner).

    20


    Title: Devour
    Author: Apple


    Excellent allusion coupled with a pulsating tone. I appreciate the delineation of rider’s voice from the description. Contains some marvelous verses, such as ‘sand becomes his seed’ or ‘licks the stars’. Wonderful ending, slightly marred by the residual manner in which you constructed it. I can’t help but feel that it could have flowed better. I especially like the ambition in this poem. Enjambment is not overdone, either. This is a gem. Thanks for the read.

    23


    Title: Planting a seed
    Author: Mermaid on the Breakwater

    This poem verges on literal. Omission of filler words would enhance the flow. I like the narrative, yet a few self-evident explanations such ‘leaves us with not a lot’ detract from the poem. You’ve already intimated that in the previous verses – no need to spell it out. I see a leap the penultimate stanza to the last one. Perhaps a smoother transition? Also, that last stanza becomes more like the coda of a discourse analysis. I do, however, appreciate the portrayal of familial bonds.

    14.5


    Tile: Day by Night
    Author: Olly Buckle


    This poem is a mood piece - Sensual and oscillating, a mood solely afforded by lush imagery, for the rhythm jars in several places. I would remove the capitals, so as to connect lines that inevitable follow one another. Again, most enjoyable: it threatens to lull, but reawakens the reader through movement within verses. I view as a photo negative. Yet, I desired it to be less settling.

    18


    Title: Dust Devil
    Author: MisterJack

    Immaculate coordination – almost as if the rhythm heralds the dust devil. Omission of a few filler words wouldn’t go amiss, although in a poem with such momentum a few halts do help in lieu of punctuation. Love the ending – humorous and wry - which not only lends the title phrase another nuance, but also immediately transports the reader into a different scenery – more confined, yet filled with the similar images, sounds, and textures. Yet, I feel the parallelism could have been more accentuated throughout the poem.

    22.5


    Title: The Block
    Author: DavidBetzer

    I appreciate the personifications you employ, but the piece merely exceeds description, for me.
    Tense shift in the last stanza (lines 3 and 6) presents a problem for me in that I do not know whether to consider the previous stanzas as flashback. Moreover, you proceed from meticulous imagery (gleaning for details in the environment you describe) to a rushed justification, as evinced by the last line.

    15


    Title: Rainbow Serpent
    Author: Autumn


    This piece relies heavily on anthropomorphism to compensate for lack of human presence. In something so bare, repetition (namely, of the word ‘desert’) becomes noticeable. I also question the impact, given the brevity. It reads more like enumeration due to predictability of line breaks and abundance of linking verb ‘to be’. I experience a cooling effect, nonetheless, and appreciate the utilization of space in the poem.

    12.5



    Title: Smoking wicks and lakes of sand
    Author: andrew_w


    First to all, you need to carefully consider your enjambment. Read the poem out loud and see where you would naturally pause. Content (message) feels one-dimensional to me. I sense an identity (the narrator’s) that evaporated with the loss of fruition, yet this idea becomes muddled in the clichéd expressions, none of which given a new angle or otherwise subverted.

    12


    Title: My Heart
    Author: SerenityJS


    This tone in this poem feels torn between self-pity and self-flagellation. I find it somewhat grinded and, almost as if phrases wish to stray away from one-another, only to be viciously connected. A nice return to the point of origin, yet I would have preferred a smoother continuation. The poem jars in various places, due to use of gerunds, inconsistency in verse capitalization, and abrupt fragmentation of thoughts.

    14.5


    Title: The Desert God
    Author: rcallaci


    You have imbued this piece with an unfurling quality – each stanza reveals a reason for the uttered wrath, making the latter righteous. A great descent from peak to pith. Centering of poem and lack of punctuation transform the poem into an inscription. The consistent tone works to that effect, as well. Aural poems often render overabundance of imagery unnecessary, yet I would have appreciated more tactility in the characterization of the ‘little bastards’. The concept of self-fashioning due to others’ ego-altruisms prevails.

    19.75


    Title: Waiting for Wildflower Season
    Author: Foxee


    The poem creates a remarkable sense of isolation which breaks into a flashback only to present the lingering wait through personification of hopes later on. Seemingly disparate elements interweaved to create a plaintive, yet expectant mood. More cohesion between stanzas may have been desirable. I also wonder about the enjambment, specifically your choice to end a verse with an article (‘a’).

    19.25


    Title: Sweet As Desert Breeze
    Author: Ilasir Maroa


    Yet, another mood piece. Delicious images (slowly poured) with an undercurrent of sublimity. I particularly like the last two verses, which lend the spectral scenery a fleshy farewell. I also appreciate your revival of archaic language – it befits the vacillation of hues in this poem. The staggering flow works for me. Nice use of slants, if scattered in various places.

    22.75


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    The Desert Rose by Vangoghsear.

    Thematic resonance – 4/5
    Technical Excellence -4/5
    Composition – 4/5
    Message – 4/5
    Originality – 5/5

    21

    Good imagery. The poem held me until the end.


    Devour by Apple

    Thematic resonance – 3/5
    Technical Excellence -4/5
    Composition – 4/5
    Message – 3/5
    Originality – 5/5

    19

    A lively read but the theme seems incidental to the poem.


    Planting A Seed by Mermaid of the Breakwater

    Thematic resonance – 4/5
    Technical Excellence -3/5
    Composition – 3/5
    Message – 4/5
    Originality – 5/5

    19

    A great original interpretation of the theme but I feel that this poem is let down by the structure.


    Day by Night by Olly Buckle

    Thematic resonance – 5/5
    Technical Excellence -3/5
    Composition – 3/5
    Message – 3/5
    Originality – 5/5

    19

    Some nice images in this but it lacks the concrete to bind them together. Structure and rhythm very jerky.


    Dust Devil by Mister Jack

    Thematic resonance – 4/5
    Technical Excellence -3/5
    Composition – 4/5
    Message – 4/5
    Originality – 5/5

    20

    Some nice imagery, with the poem structured to fit the tornado image. I think that the poem really needs some trimming down to make it effective.


    The Block by David Betzner

    Thematic resonance – 5/5
    Technical Excellence -2/5
    Composition – 2/5
    Message – 4/5
    Originality – 5/5

    18

    Great images and mood. I honestly would have thought this a winner but it is let down by typos/errors.


    Rainbow Serpent by Autumn

    Thematic resonance – 5/5
    Technical Excellence -2/5
    Composition – 2/5
    Message – 3/5
    Originality – 5/5

    17

    This was a nice short work which transmits a good mood and feel. Again, a poem let down by typos/errors. Also, although the image contained is good it leaves me feeling that it needs something more.


    Smoking Wicks and Lakes of Sand by Andrew W

    Thematic resonance – 4/5
    Technical Excellence -2/5
    Composition – 2/5
    Message – 2/5
    Originality – 4/5

    14

    I really don’t want to come down heavily on someone expressing writer’s block but this lacks originality. Although I like the idea of the desert/block metaphor, it isn’t a new one. Again, this is also let down by typos/errors. I think that there is something here and that, with a fresh look, it can be worked and something drawn out of it.


    My Heart by SerenityJS

    Thematic resonance – 3/5
    Technical Excellence -3/5
    Composition – 2/5
    Message – 2/5
    Originality – 4/5

    14

    This poem barely touches the desert theme confusing it with metaphors that clash completely. Again it is not helped by typos/errors. The central formatting is off-putting. There are some good lines in here but I think that they could be applied to different poems rather than be used as a cocktail of images in this one.


    The Desert God by RCallaci

    Thematic resonance – 5/5
    Technical Excellence -3/5
    Composition – 3/5
    Message – 4/5
    Originality – 4/5

    19

    I’m quite surprised to see Bob post a poem in a challenge that has typos in it. For shame, and for me it killed what could be a winning entry. The poem is strong and witty and the central format actually works for this one. The idea isn’t totally original but it is well presented in a witty way.


    Waiting for Wildflower Season by Foxee

    Thematic resonance – 5/5
    Technical Excellence -4/5
    Composition – 4/5
    Message – 5/5
    Originality – 5/5

    23

    For me, the only thing that lets this poem down is the wishy-washy use of punctuation. Punctuation should be used, or not used, consistently. The poem paints a good scene with nice imagery. S2 L2 is weak in that it uses “a” as a last word, a weak line ending where a stronger word would give more to the poem. A good read none-the-less and, to me, one that best fitted all the criteria of the challenge.


    Sweet as Desert Breeze by Ilasir Maroa

    Thematic resonance – 5/5
    Technical Excellence -5/5
    Composition – 4/5
    Message – 5/5
    Originality – 5/5

    24

    This poem meets all the criteria of the contest, in my opinion, and is well structured and thoughtfully worked out. If Ilasir is to work this further then I would suggest adding another image to centre the others in the scene.

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    Scores Continued:

    Cold Twilight


    Devour
    Thematic Resonance, or how well the theme can be discerned. 4
    Technical Excellence, or how well the poet utilizes grammar and spelling. 3.5 Some words misused grammatically.
    Composition, or how well the poem is constructed and how well the poet uses poetic devices. 5
    Message, or how impact the theme is. 3.5 This is a bit confusing. The basic idea is there, but it is clouded.
    Originality, or how unique the poem is. 5

    21

    *****

    The Block
    Thematic Resonance, or how well the theme can be discerned. 4
    Technical Excellence, or how well the poet utilizes grammar and spelling. 3 --good structure, but punctuation not providing punctuation.
    Composition, or how well the poem is constructed and how well the poet uses poetic devices. 5
    Message, or how impact the theme is. 5
    Originality, or how unique the poem is. 5

    22

    *****

    Dust Devil
    Thematic Resonance, or how well the theme can be discerned. 5
    Technical Excellence, or how well the poet utilizes grammar and spelling. 3.5
    Composition, or how well the poem is constructed and how well the poet uses poetic devices. 5
    Message, or how impact the theme is. 5
    Originality, or how unique the poem is. 5

    23.5

    This one was my favorite.

    *****

    The Desert Rose
    Thematic Resonance, or how well the theme can be discerned. 5
    Technical Excellence, or how well the poet utilizes grammar and spelling. 4 from second verse onward, there is an increasing lack of punctuation where emphasis seems to be needed for the flow
    Composition, or how well the poem is constructed and how well the poet uses poetic devices. 5
    Message, or how impact the theme is. 5
    Originality, or how unique the poem is. 5

    24

    *****

    Day by Night
    Thematic Resonance, or how well the theme can be discerned. 5
    Technical Excellence, or how well the poet utilizes grammar and spelling. 4
    Composition, or how well the poem is constructed and how well the poet uses poetic devices. 4
    Message, or how impact the theme is. 4
    Originality, or how unique the poem is. 5

    22

    *****

    Planting a Seed
    Thematic Resonance, or how well the theme can be discerned. 5
    Technical Excellence, or how well the poet utilizes grammar and spelling. 5
    Composition, or how well the poem is constructed and how well the poet uses poetic devices. 4
    Message, or how impact the theme is. 5
    Originality, or how unique the poem is. 5

    24

    Really liked this one too.

    *****
    Rainbow Serpent
    Thematic Resonance, or how well the theme can be discerned. 3
    Technical Excellence, or how well the poet utilizes grammar and spelling. 2
    Composition, or how well the poem is constructed and how well the poet uses poetic devices. 4
    Message, or how impact the theme is. 2
    Originality, or how unique the poem is. 5

    16

    Beautiful beginning, but not enough to really get anywhere.

    *****

    Smoking Wicks and Lakes of Sand
    Thematic Resonance, or how well the theme can be discerned. 5
    Technical Excellence, or how well the poet utilizes grammar and spelling. 3
    Composition, or how well the poem is constructed and how well the poet uses poetic devices. 3.5
    Message, or how impact the theme is. 5
    Originality, or how unique the poem is. 5

    21.5

    I like this one as well, more toward the middle of my liking, but it still has that 'cachet' to it.

    *****

    My Heart
    Thematic Resonance, or how well the theme can be discerned. 3
    Technical Excellence, or how well the poet utilizes grammar and spelling. 2.5
    Composition, or how well the poem is constructed and how well the poet uses poetic devices. 3
    Message, or how impact the theme is. 3
    Originality, or how unique the poem is. 4

    15.5

    The use of words was well done, and the idea was a good one, but putting it all together, it was sidetracked by grammer and disconnected phrases.

    *****

    The Desert God
    Thematic Resonance, or how well the theme can be discerned. 5
    Technical Excellence, or how well the poet utilizes grammar and spelling. 3
    Composition, or how well the poem is constructed and how well the poet uses poetic devices. 5
    Message, or how impact the theme is. 5
    Originality, or how unique the poem is. 5

    23

    This one made me laugh! Neat way of introducing a 'devil', and the capitalization, and lack thereof, was interesting rather than distracting.

    *****

    Waiting for Wildflower Season
    Thematic Resonance, or how well the theme can be discerned. 5
    Technical Excellence, or how well the poet utilizes grammar and spelling. 4
    Composition, or how well the poem is constructed and how well the poet uses poetic devices. 5
    Message, or how impact the theme is. 5
    Originality, or how unique the poem is. 5

    24

    Nice poem; a bit tame after some of the others, but nice.

    *****

    Sweet As Desert Breeze
    Thematic Resonance, or how well the theme can be discerned. 5
    Technical Excellence, or how well the poet utilizes grammar and spelling. 5
    Composition, or how well the poem is constructed and how well the poet uses poetic devices. 5
    Message, or how impact the theme is. 5
    Originality, or how unique the poem is. 5

    25

    Technically a very good poem, but it doesn’t quite catch my fancy.



    Shawn


    Vangoghssear

    Thematic Resonance: 5
    Technical Excellence: 5
    Composition: 3
    Message: 4
    Originality: 4

    Total: 21

    Even without the indicators, I can tell this is a desert. Good job on the imagery. Technically excellent. However, I felt there was something missing from the whole, and because of that, as you can see, I deducted points from the last three categories.


    Apple

    Thematic Resonance: 2
    Technical Excellence: 5
    Composition: 5
    Message: 5
    Originality: 5

    Total: 22

    Excellent poem. I well enjoyed it. Your use of dialogue really brought the character to the forefront of the poem instead of the setting. However, I didn’t get a desolate feel out of it… or a real indication that any part of this was about bareness or a desert; so that’s why I deducted from Thematic Resonance. The assigned theme did not show through.


    Mermaid on the Breakwater

    Thematic Resonance: 3
    Technical Excellence: 5
    Composition: 3
    Message: 5
    Originality: 5

    Total: 21

    Good. This lot seems to be of good quality. The only real beef I had with your entry, which is not much of a beef at all, is that I felt your message could be put in better terms. I deducted from Thematic Resonance because I almost got the feeling in the beginning that the word desert was just tacked on to make it eligible for the competition. I particularly liked the last line, however, as it reminded me of an old More poem I read where he used the phrase “and grows to some Southern tree.” Very beautiful analogy for death, in my opinion.


    Olly Buckle

    Thematic Resonance: 5
    Technical Excellence: 5
    Composition: 3
    Message: 4
    Originality: 5

    Total: 22

    Olly, excellent, lovely poem. If I were a geography teacher, this would be a choice one for students. In my mind‘s eye, it brings a wonderful snapshot of desert nightlife, but at the same time, my analytical part is thinking of all the analogies to human behavior in the way of it. Certainly, a lot of emphasis is put on complicated themes; but this shows how simple and pervasive nature is.


    Mister Jack

    Thematic Resonance: 5
    Technical Excellence: 5
    Composition: 4
    Message: 5
    Originality: 5

    Total: 24

    Ah! Now this is something I don’t see every day. Carmen Figuratum. Congratulations, you caught me in pleasant surprise. I have no problem with this aside from the last few lines. Your similes before that last one were naturalistic and surreal… I’m not sure I would consider an ex running off with my clothes surreal. Good job.


    David Betzer

    Thematic Resonance: 5
    Technical Excellence: 5
    Composition: 3
    Message: 3
    Originality: 5

    Total: 21

    David, good piece. Could this be a work of forewarning? Or is it a vision that’s already occurred? The thought provocation is what sends me to give this higher scores than what I would. The composition doesn’t make much effort to fit to the mood. Very decent, though.


    Autumn

    Thematic Resonance: 5
    Technical Excellence: 5
    Composition: 2
    Message: 3
    Originality: 3

    Total: 18

    I don’t really want to sugar coat this, because with the word choice that you showed here, I feel that the composition could’ve been a lot better. The message lacks much emphasis because it is something that has been said before. The composition fell apart for me when you used the word “desert” as an line break twice. Or, really, with the number of words in this, using the word desert twice at all. Perhaps this just wasn’t the topic for you.


    Andrew_W

    Thematic Resonance: 3
    Technical Excellence: 5
    Composition: 3
    Message: 2
    Originality: 2

    Total: 15

    Certainly a resonating message here, but I think that your problems with writer’s block may be due to you writing about it. The desert portion appeared as a footnote at the end, even though it could’ve been metaphorical throughout.


    SerenityJS

    Thematic Resonance: 5
    Technical Excellence: 5
    Composition: 3
    Message: 5
    Originality: 5

    Total: 23

    Good work. However, I think that the formatting of this detracted from the message, so I deducted a bit for that.


    Rcallaci

    Thematic Resonance: 5
    Technical Excellence: 5
    Composition: 3
    Message: 5
    Originality: 5

    Total: 23

    This made me chuckle for a good while. I never figured you as a god-in-waiting. I deducted a bit from the composition because it just didn’t flow for me. But… that’s just me talking.


    Foxee

    Thematic Resonance: 5
    Technical Excellence: 5
    Composition: 5
    Message: 5
    Originality: 5

    Total: 25

    What do you say when you can hear yourself nodding? Excellent. Relatable. Just… great. Good job.


    Ilasir Maroa

    Thematic Resonance: 5
    Technical Excellence: 5
    Composition: 4
    Message: 5
    Originality: 5

    Total: 24

    I must say, I’ve been a bit naughty. I peeked at the bottom of this thread to see your poem before I started scoring. Some kind of Christmas thing. Excellent. My only minute problem was the break in rhythm in line fourteen.



    Total Scores

    Vangoghsear- 83/100

    Apple- 86/100

    Mermaid on the Breakwater- 78/100

    Olly Buckle- 83/100

    MisterJack- 88.5/100

    DavidBetzer- 78/100

    Autumn- 63.5/100

    Andrew_W- 62.5/100

    SerenityJS- 67/100

    RCallaci- 84.75/100

    Foxee- 91.25/100

    Ilasir Maroa- 95.75/100



    Winners


    Third Place- MisterJack
    Second Place- Foxee
    First Place - Ilasir Maroa


    Good job, everyone! Great scores. Let's give a big round of applause to our judges who spent their time doing this thing. Big round of applause to our winners, who won truly with their creative ability and imagination.

    Ilasir, if you would PM me your decision for the next round within the space of a week.

    A week's break, people, then we're back on the horse.

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    Congratulations to Ilasir, Foxee and Jack. A worthy winner, I think, Ilasir.

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    Thank you, judges! You had a tough job this time around and I appreciate the feedback very much.

    Enjoyed reading these entries. Ilasir, congrats. MisterJack, loved it.

    Nice job with this round, Shawn. Thanks for keeping the poetry contest going.

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    Kudos, Jack.
    You're certainly increasing your poetic acumen.

    Also, congratulations to Foxee and Ilasir (my second personal favorite poem, yours).

    Apple's piece - quite impressive. It will stay with me.

    Thanks to all for participating. I found it rewarding to pronounce a value judgment on the submitted entries.

    I'd also like to thank Baron, Shawn, and Cold Twilight for their in-depth critiques.

    Looking forward to the next challenge,
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    I know this sounds bad, and I am greatful for the positive responses, but I'm a bit shocked I even placed with that one. Certanly Foxee and apple were my top choices. Several poems vied for third.

    Anyway, thanks for the repsonses, and I plan on suggesting a very tricky and unique theme... Muhahahahahaha!

    P.S. Baron, as in many of my poems, the moon was supposed to be the center. Desert moonlight is one of my most favorite kinds. Perhaps I'll expand this a bit though.
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    I found this to be a quite enjoyable experience. My thanks to the judges (Shawn, Mirror, Baron, and Cold twilight) for their honest insightful critiques and excellent judging skills.

    My congratulations to all who entered this challenge especially to the top three (Mister Jack, Foxee, and Ilasir) outstanding poems and marvelous and talented poets.

    A special thanks to Shawn for administering this contest with a deft and graceful hand.

    My warmest
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    P.S. Baron, I do stand shamed by my grievous typo-( I only counted one-which is still one too many)) my excuse-stupidy and lazieness which is a bad excuse but the only one I have. fixed the to to too- I told you I was stupid....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcallaci View Post
    P.S. Baron, I do stand shamed by my grievous typo-( I only counted one-which is still one to many)) my excuse-stupidy and lazieness which is a bad excuse but the only one I have.
    I think you mean 'too'.

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    Congratulations to all of the winners, MisterJack, interesting format, really worked well and neat little twist at the end. Foxee, I knew your poem was going to be among the winners the second I read it (you are officially no longer allowed to say you are not a poet ). Ilasir, a very beautiful work, lovely flow and feel.

    Thanks judges for your time and comments. Thanks Shawn for administering the process!

    All of the poems were quite good in their own ways, I thought. Very fun exercise, turned out some nice poetry.
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    Thanks, Vangoghsear! I am working on improving and the judge's feedback really helps. I really enjoyed your poem, too. The imagery was breathtaking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vangoghsear View Post
    Foxee, I knew your poem was going to be among the winners the second I read it (you are officially no longer allowed to say you are not a poet ).
    Ditto

    I'd like to say, 'wow', firstly. Now that's done, thanks to the judges for their work in this comp. I don't envy you having that task one bit, and the comments are all duely noted. Thanks to shawn for running a smooth comp and keeping it going. Thanks to everyone for reading and comments.

    Congrats certainly go out to the winning piece, followed by my personal favourite from the no-longer 'non-poet' Foxee. Can we see more of you on the boards please

    And, Kudos to everyone who entered. Hopefully see you at the next installment.


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    ...followed by my personal favourite from the no-longer 'non-poet' Foxee. Can we see more of you on the boards please
    Why ty! I'll see what I can do. I had you pegged for the winner of this round, Jack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxee View Post
    I had you pegged for the winner of this round, Jack.
    You're just trying to make me blush. You are most kind Foxee and I'm glad you enjoyed the piece. Look forward to seeing you on the next round?
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    Wonderful poem Ilasir. Congratulations on a well deserved win. Foxee and Jack, your poems are awesome.

    To the judges, thank you for your hard work and effort.

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    Well done everyone, top three especially. I had forgotten about this challenge but I am glad that it produced some good work. Kudos guys/gals. Thanks to the judges, too.
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