Thread: The Bards' Bistro

Submissions for the 'theatre' LM Poetry Challenge is now closed.

There are thirteen terrific entries. Thank you to everyone who participated.

One of the main ideas behind the 'people's choice' vote was to help narrow the field of entries to make judging not so hard because of volume. Since there are only thirteen, should we move straight to the judging round, or should we go ahead and do a people's choice vote?

Originally Posted by Selorian

Submissions for the 'theatre' LM Poetry Challenge is now closed.

There are thirteen terrific entries. Thank you to everyone who participated.

One of the main ideas behind the 'people's choice' vote was to help narrow the field of entries to make judging not so hard because of volume. Since there are only thirteen, should we move straight to the judging round, or should we go ahead and do a people's choice vote?

I see no problem with going straight to the judging round.

Well, there's only actually 12 entries, because as a judge I just posted mine for fun.

A few people who would usually submit a poem haven't been on the board for one reason or another over the last few weeks. I'm hoping that there'll be a better response to the next one.

Let's just go straight to the judging.

I agree with going straight to the judging round. I'll let the judges know and we'll post the winners next Monday.

I believe the next challenge will have more entries. I think some may have wanted to see how the first one worked out before they gave it a try.

Originally Posted by Selorian

I think some may have wanted to see how the first one worked out before they gave it a try.

I'm afraid that fear governs us in ways that scare us.

Originally Posted by vangoghsear

I'm afraid that fear governs us in ways that scare us.

Fear scares us... what an astute observation... just kidding.

he's right, I'm afraid ... ...


Now that we've completed one challenge under the LM banner -
and extra thanks to Selorian for launching LM Poetry in its own section;
more generous than I'd dared hope when the idea was being discussed -
I'd be very interested in some feedback from the judges regarding the assessment format, especially as I noted some comments in the scoring.

Was the 10 section/100 point format suitable for your needs?
Was there a balance of criteria -
Too much or not enough emphasis on any aspect?
Objective and subjective latitude?
Any aspect superfluous or missing altogether?

Importantly, how strongly do the criteria rely upon or assume
a practical knowledge of the craft of poetry?

I don't want to preempt any answers by putting my view on this,
but I believe it would be a valuable exercise and a progressive step
towards the ongoing evolution of the poetry challenge.

I'd also be interested in Selorian's experience, as the administrator of the challenge -
have the steps and stages moved as smoothly as anticipated?
Is the combined load manageable?
Are there any aspects where we, as interested participants, can improve our contribution?

I'd be interested in seeing some real discussion here instead of in the poetry forum

Originally Posted by Baron

I'd be interested in seeing some real discussion here instead of in the poetry forum

Baron... I think they've already snet that horse off to the glue factory...

You're welcome, Cran. It was my pleasure getting this set up.

As far as running it, things went pretty smoothly. It isn't any harder than running one of the LM Challenges, which is that the set up and the final tallying takes some time. Other than that, it isn't bad. I imagine that could change, though, depending on the number of entries.

I asked each of the judges to give me their thoughts on the judging system after they used it. They are more than welcome to post those thoughts here for discussion. I think that their insight will be helpful in making any necessary adjustments to the system to insure it works the best it can in providing a thorough, honest, and fair method of judging.

The only thing I ask is that it remains a real discussion and that it doesn't degrade into arguments, as some of the earlier discussions did.

I enjoyed this competition. it got me to get my brain seriously working on an idea I'd already been developing. From a personal perspective, I think the judging system works, but some tweaking could help. We should focus slightly more on a judge's opinion of entries, and a bit less on the technical aspects. I feel that could help some future scores. A poem needs to feel like a poem, but I don't think it needs to necessarily be technically impressive.

Secondarily, I think this has been addressed before, but since judging is over, is it ok to display my poem in the regular review area?

Originally Posted by wheelz1138

I enjoyed this competition. it got me to get my brain seriously working on an idea I'd already been developing. From a personal perspective, I think the judging system works, but some tweaking could help. We should focus slightly more on a judge's opinion of entries, and a bit less on the technical aspects. I feel that could help some future scores. A poem needs to feel like a poem, but I don't think it needs to necessarily be technically impressive.

Secondarily, I think this has been addressed before, but since judging is over, is it ok to display my poem in the regular review area?

I've already posted mine there although so far it's received no comments I understand that as long as the judging is finished there's no problem.

And why would Baron, only 44 points shy of a perfect competition score need additional critiquing from us? It's the lowly entries who only got into the 200's and below who need you!