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Poetic Discussion Discuss and debate poetic technique, form, styles and such. DO NOT POST POETRY FOR CRITIQUE OR REVIEW!

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Old 02-08-2008, 12:06 PM   #1
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Poetry Masterclass

This link is to a British teachers' tv poetry masterclass programme. Although it is aimed at year 10 students I think it has some pointers that are helpful to all who are seeking to write and understand poetry:


Phil Beadle's Masterclass - Limbo and Night of the Scorpion | Teachers TV

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Phil Beadle's Masterclass - Island Man and Blessing | Teachers TV

A good website for learning to understand, write and appreciate poetry:

http://www.poetrymagic.co.uk/index.html

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Old 02-08-2008, 12:38 PM   #2
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That's a good idea Baron. Why don't you see if they can put this up as a sticky?
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:56 PM   #3
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Ha ha! Those are two of the poems I studied at GCSE. They're a good read actually.
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Old 02-08-2008, 01:23 PM   #4
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That's a good idea Baron. Why don't you see if they can put this up as a sticky?
It might be a good idea to have a sticky thread where this and similar items could be posted.
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Old 02-08-2008, 02:30 PM   #5
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It's stickied for now. Don't want to sticky too many thread in Poetry because the first-page space is really important. But it can stay up until it gets a little yellow and curling at the edges.
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Old 02-08-2008, 03:31 PM   #6
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Perhaps if anyone else has any interesting or informative links then they could add them to this thread!?
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Old 02-08-2008, 04:08 PM   #7
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i studied them at gcse too and hated them both. in fact i remember getting an A* in my speaking and listening exam for coherently complaining about why i disliked those "other culture" poems to an AQA examiner. ha. i don't mean to boast, but that is one of the crowning glories of my life so far...

thoroughly good idea though; i could learn something from this!
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:02 PM   #8
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I've added a second link to the OP
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These links are interesting. I didn't really learn anything new, but it is nice to see other perspectives on style.
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I think that there are many who post here with little real nowledge of poetic device and these are helpful if they take the time to watch them. Presented in an interesting way as well.

I also think that any writer who wants to write in a way that captivates the reader should have a knowledge of poetic device, even when writing prose. James Joyce and Samuel Becket employed a great deal of iambic meter in their novels/plays, as of course did William Shakespear. "To be or not to be, that is the question..." All three of these writers made great use of assonance and consonance in their prose as well.

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Baron I had a chance to check out the beginning poem of both of those links. It was very helpful, to hear the poem read, and emphasize on particular words, the beat to the poem. I have been attempting to google (I know laugh laugh) some poetry explanations this week. May take some time, but I see the basics to it so far. I just hope though that it won't put pause to my words as I write out a poem, hope I don't stop to think on it to much, because the best part of writing to me is pouring it straight out.
What I want is to still do that, but then have the knowledge to go back over it and clean it up nicely and properly, keeping the emotion in it intact.

Much appreciated Baron for the links, looking forward to having a quiet day to really sit and absorb those a little better.
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Baron I had a chance to check out the beginning poem of both of those links. It was very helpful, to hear the poem read, and emphasize on particular words, the beat to the poem. I have been attempting to google (I know laugh laugh) some poetry explanations this week. May take some time, but I see the basics to it so far. I just hope though that it won't put pause to my words as I write out a poem, hope I don't stop to think on it to much, because the best part of writing to me is pouring it straight out.
What I want is to still do that, but then have the knowledge to go back over it and clean it up nicely and properly, keeping the emotion in it intact.

Much appreciated Baron for the links, looking forward to having a quiet day to really sit and absorb those a little better.
I think that as you come into some of the basic concepts then they get absorbed into the natural flow and enhance it. I know that, for myself, even when writing free verse, ideas and devices come into play that have their origin in structured poetry.
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Thanks Baron , I will take a look at this site. I need all the help I can get....(((smiling))))
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Just posted another useful link.
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Baron,
There is a lot of information on this site, How to write poetry. There is more to writing poetry than just the inspirational thought. Of course, we cannot throw out the inspirations that frequent our minds, but rather build on them, and that is the hard side of writing.

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