Poetry Discussion(#2: Elitist Poetry,lol) - Page 6 - Writers Forum

Shawn · 10-24-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by German Voodoo

Also, this board has too many entries, by far. Too damn many.

I think the site owners are quite pleased. Lots of revenue to be had.

Voodoo · 10-24-2007, 05:25 PM

Refer to page two, where everything dies. Some entries from today. That's not conducive to good reviews. Means a lot of shit is a lot of shit and it doesn't last long, which means no one learns, no poem stays for more than an hour, and that same fellow who didn't learn is back tomorrow to post more shit.

Baron · 10-24-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by German Voodoo

Mermaid on the breakwater;

Well, no, if I may say so. Compare us to the poet laureate and you'll find an egregious imbalance. Good enough is a brand on the forehead.

If you note, as mentioned by Eiji, the american (NY, not sure which, though he was, or is) poet laureate doesn't stress form, but I bet he could stress it to a fucking orgasm if he tried. He knows what he doesn't do, as opposed to not knowing what he does or does not do.

No, poetry gods wasn't the exact term used. Baron stated the higher end critique should be given and received to/by the people who can stand it (The Poetic Elite -- not the irony in this facetious shit, and, whilst these select few would achieve superstardom, those Who Can't Handle It would be left to rot in their own incompetence.)

The post to which you refer (Pale will find that pretentious, but hey) wasn't addressed to you exclusively, no.

I've posted a poem by the Poet Laureate to HRH Queen Elizabeth II, Andrew Motion, in the published poetry forum. Note how he abandons form and breaks the rules (sic)

http://www.writingforums.com/publish...ml#post1002587

ms. vodka · 10-24-2007, 06:39 PM

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I think the site owners are quite pleased. Lots of revenue to be had

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and it is all about revenue after all, isn't it.

baron, i don't think that anyone is questioning the ability of excellent poets to successfully break rules. i think that what this thread comes down to is that:

-you need to at least be familiar with the rules to even know whether or not you're breaking any.

-if you cannot admit there are rules at least admit there are guidelines.

-no one thinks that being mean in a critique is a good thing, however being honest is.

-stroking people's egos is really just as bad as being horrible to them.

-learn how to accept critique and apply what you find appropriate to your work.

this forum has never been a forum for extensive critique. not for the four years or whatever i was a member,staffed, quit to start LM it and rejoined it.

there's some nice people here though.

Baron · 10-24-2007, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ms. vodka

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and it is all about revenue after all, isn't it.

baron, i don't think that anyone is questioning the ability of excellent poets to successfully break rules. i think that what this thread comes down to is that:

-you need to at least be familiar with the rules to even know whether or not you're breaking any.

-if you cannot admit there are rules at least admit there are guidelines.

-no one thinks that being mean in a critique is a good thing, however being honest is.

-stroking people's egos is really just as bad as being horrible to them.

-learn how to accept critique and apply what you find appropriate to your work.

this forum has never been a forum for extensive critique. not for the four years or whatever i was a member,staffed, quit to start LM it and rejoined it.

there's some nice people here though.

You should have followed the link, I was being sarcastic.

ms. vodka · 10-24-2007, 06:43 PM

oh baron. i'ma slap my bitch up.

Pete_C · 10-25-2007, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by German Voodoo

"Enjambment?

It's a carriage return.

Chuck one in wherever you like."

They say watch who speaks language to you because you may end up speaking it. If they speak a garbled series of burps but profess distaste for a language of culture and craft, they're probably quite ignorant.

If you don't know how to do something, you probably say it's no good.

Nice use of the selective quote. I hope it served your purpose well!

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Originally Posted by ms. vodka

pete c, this is for you:

I'm saddended. From you I expected something a little more ... creative!