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Old 02-24-2008, 08:13 PM   #31
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Women aren't just mindless incubators.
I never said that.
You're right though. Everyone has the right to do whatever they want to do their own body.
But not when you're killing a future life.
That's just murder, isn't it?
I do agree though that abortion shouldn't be made illegal.
It would only drive women to perform it more desperately and in more dangerous conditions.
I just think it's morally wrong though.
Oh and don't call me stupid just because we don't agree on a topic, stupid.
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Old 02-24-2008, 08:25 PM   #32
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I don't call people "stupid" based on inane things like music taste, but I think I am entitled to do that when I read someone having a fundamentally reactionary and dangerous position. There are fundamentally wrong opinions, not every opinion holds the same weight.

If you think it should be legalized, then you are OK in my book.

Anti-abortionists love to use emotionally-charged words like "murder", "baby", "life", etc when speaking about their arguments. Regardless if it is "murder" or not, the fetus holds a biologically parasitical relation with the host, and the host should choose whether to bear it or not. Pregnancy is not just a bigger belly, it entails a lot of physical, and emotional weight.
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The anti-abortion crowd is made up of hack and slash reactionaries that want to deny females the right to own their own bodies.
Not true, but an entertaining notion none the less.

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To the stupid anti-abortionist, women are just mindless incubators.
I'm anti-abortion, but I don't jump on someone if she chooses to abort her child. I ENJOYED Juno. Anyways, you're just as big an idiot as the people you choose to stereotype.



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They are completely disgusting, and they are plagued by bourgeois-christian sentimetalism. I would somewhat tolerate that viewpoint if it came from a poor worker in the third world, but it is unacceptable from people having access to internet and who call themselves writers.
It is unacceptable for people to believe that a fetus quite possibly harbors life? It is wrong for them to condemn someone when you are condemning them for the own beliefs they hold? I myself don't have too much conviction in either side of the fetus argument, but again you are implying that those who feel abortion is murder are somehow a blind ignorant force of...um..."bourgeois-christians." And you know, there are women who are against abortion, as well. Not all of them are religious, either. Imagine that.


Anyways, to any mods reading this, can this thread please be closed? Few people are actually speaking of the article, and this has more or less become a moral/ethics cock war. No, I am not excluding myself, my earlier post had my personal opinions seeping through as well.
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Old 02-24-2008, 09:39 PM   #34
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Not true, but an entertaining notion none the less.
Yeah, it is entertaining for the 16 year old pregnant girl who is about to ruin her life because a bunch of goddamn bible thumpers are obsessed with a lump of cells.

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It is unacceptable for people to believe that a fetus quite possibly harbors life? It is wrong for them to condemn someone when you are condemning them for the own beliefs they hold? I myself don't have too much conviction in either side of the fetus argument, but again you are implying that those who feel abortion is murder are somehow a blind ignorant force of...um..."bourgeois-christians." And you know, there are women who are against abortion, as well. Not all of them are religious, either. Imagine that.
Yeah, and there are also blacks that are uncle toms, and women who support patriarchy.

I never said that people against abortuon are necessary ignorant, just reactionary and stupid. Stupidity isn't a synonimous to ignorance, because there are plenty of people with worthless opinions that happen to read a lot..

Anti-abortionists want females to be owned by the state, because the state sanctions their ability to do whatever they please with their body.
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