Zensatis philosophical Discourse - Page 6 - Writers Forum

Zensati · 06-18-2007, 10:15 PM

The Universe has purpose and meaning, It runs according to scientific laws and principles. Everything In this Universe has a purpose and a role to play. There are no accidents. There is no random Chaos. There are rules that govern everything around us. Everything can come down to mathmatical equations, and everything is operating as its meant too.

Human beings get confused, but thats the way we were designed by nature to be. Theres nothing wrong with that. Its natural. Everything that happens unfolds as its meant to so as to fall into a grand Universal equation.

Whatever happens to you dont fight it. Accept it. Learn from it. Become better. Life is all about growing and learning and evolving into something else.

skyler · 06-19-2007, 07:40 AM

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Sure its nice to dream of the future, its nice to have goals and aspirations, but to be consumed with ideas of the future and to neglect the present isnt healthy. The future is created by the choices we make in the present. Thats why If you care about the future then stay focused in the present.

Yes, very true. I'm with you Zensati.

"But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble"~Jesus

Zensati · 06-26-2007, 02:53 AM

A Fire has great heat and can be beautiful to look at but if you try to immerse yourself in it you will be burnt.

Similarily this material world Is full of many beautiful and absorbing energies such as lust, greed, anger and materialism. It is fine to admire these energies from a distance but as soon as you immerse yourself in these energies you will eventually get hurt.

One can appreciate a fire without entering it and one can appreciate the materialistic energies of the world without immersing oneself in them, the secret to this Is to become detatched from the material world. And to admire these energies with a rational and detatched spirit.

Zensati · 06-27-2007, 04:24 AM

When you lose something you should know its part of the cosmic plan. Accept it. You dont need that particular thing anymore because it was holding you back anyway.

If You need some thing. have faith that the Universe will provide all your necessities. There is enough for mans need but not enough for mans greed.

Hodge · 06-27-2007, 03:16 PM

Tell that to Bosnian refugees.

Shawn · 06-27-2007, 03:59 PM

Or starving African children.

Zensati · 06-27-2007, 11:10 PM

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Or starving African children.

Yes good point. Its like I said theres enough for mankinds need but not enough for mankinds greed.

Greedy Capitalist 1st world Nations are obssesed with greed and hog all the wealth and resourses, meanwhile Bosnian refugees and African children are starving to death because rich nations wont share.

Why cant we all share and help eachother out.

Hodge · 06-27-2007, 11:14 PM

And on the same token those "greedy capitalist 1st world nations" created all the wealth.

And FYI, the U.S., U.N., and other world countries do actually send a lot of aid to people across the world. Perhaps not enough, but they do send substantial amounts.

Zensati · 06-27-2007, 11:20 PM

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And on the same token those "greedy capitalist 1st world nations" created all the wealth.

And FYI, the U.S., U.N., and other world countries do actually send a lot of aid to people across the world. Perhaps not enough, but they do send substantial amounts.

And yet there is still starvation and poverty all over the world. Even In the rich Capitilist Countrys. Theres actually plenty to go around, but the Rich powerful minority are hogging again

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Shawn · 06-27-2007, 11:22 PM

There wouldn't be plenty to go around if there wasn't enough. Capitalism works on the point of raising capital and then spending capital on ventures which in turn create more capital... then all that capital goes back into another venture.

Being rich doesn't matter in the long run. Good investors make money off their money and live on a regular salary from that. The mega rich become mega poor if they don't manage it right.

Hodge · 06-27-2007, 11:23 PM

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And yet there is still starvation and poverty all over the world. Even In the rich Capitilist Countrys. Theres actually plenty to go around, but the Rich powerful minority are hogging again

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Ah, so because the system isn't perfect it's bad! What logic.

Zensati · 06-27-2007, 11:30 PM

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Ah, so because the system isn't perfect it's bad! What logic.

Is it so Illogical to aspire towards perfection? To accept imperfection can be quite illogical.

Shawn · 06-27-2007, 11:30 PM

People will die regardless... let's look for the problems that come about from solving world hunger... namely: overpopulation. What happens when the population grows? Nope... there's not enough land to farm, so they move everyone in cities to make way. They deforest large areas of land to make room. The demolish people's homes to make room. They build buildings taller, taller, and taller, while there is less land still. The rich and the poor still exist, but the poor live on the filthy streets, while the rich live in the padded flats.

How is hygiene kept in a world where everyone is agrarian, because that's the only way to survive? It isn't... and what happens when there's a communicable disease? Everyone gets it... it's a plague. But they demolished all the pharmaceutical factories to make way for the farms!

Nope... not going to work. We should stick to capitalism, and we save the race, something that is far more important than individuals.

Shawn · 06-27-2007, 11:35 PM

Handing people equality is not perfection, because the opportunity of equality is much greater.

Zensati · 06-27-2007, 11:38 PM

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People will die regardless... let's look for the problems that come about from solving world hunger... namely: overpopulation. What happens when the population grows? Nope... there's not enough land to farm, so they move everyone in cities to make way. They deforest large areas of land to make room. The demolish people's homes to make room. They build buildings taller, taller, and taller, while there is less land still. The rich and the poor still exist, but the poor live on the filthy streets, while the rich live in the padded flats.

How is hygiene kept in a world where everyone is agrarian, because that's the only way to survive? It isn't... and what happens when there's a communicable disease? Everyone gets it... it's a plague. But they demolished all the pharmaceutical factories to make way for the farms!

Nope... not going to work. We should stick to capitalism, and we save the race, something that is far more important than individuals.

Yes, I think at some point Humanity will have to learn how to manage Its population growth. But Humanity allso needs to learn how to better share and utilise the worlds resources for everyones benefit not just a priviledged few.