*** Why I Am An Atheist? *** - Page 2 - Writers Forum

tanmay · 11-01-2005, 03:05 PM

Teflon,

Your feedback is much better than my original post. Although being an atheist is a no gurantee that the person will be kind and compassionate, but being a theist is not a gurantee of that as well. But yeah in the end we both agree on one point - Long Live Atheism!

Regards,
Tanmay.

teflon · 11-01-2005, 03:25 PM

I'd happily modify my wish to be cynical, thinking how atheism always manages to stick its Madalyn Murray O'Hair mugshot into the lives of innocents.

mammamaia · 11-02-2005, 10:20 AM

teflon... murray wasn't/isn't the be all and end all of atheism... she was merely one person who claimed to be an atheist... to use her as the epitome of non-belief in gods and religions is being just as narrow-minded as many devout followers of the various and sundry creeds can be... wars are begun and fought by religious folks, not by atheists... and most are waged because of one religious group's refusal to allow others the right to their own version of the fairy tale world of gods and religion... i don't know why murray scares you so much, but you should get over it, as she's had no great impact on anything or anyone, except to help uphold the separation between state and religion that the founders of the us wisely felt was necessary... so, why don't you live up to your name and not let her stick in your craw?...

teflon · 11-02-2005, 10:57 AM

I ain't said nothing of being scared of her. In the post I recline in comfort as I recount her career of evil. If the pen is mightier than the sword, then she difinetely ended her days according to another axiom - live by the swrod, die by the sword - she bery likely ended up in a mulch shredder - a multitude of swords?
Nay, on the contrary, I stand in awe of divine justice that has caught up with all the atheists I've ever known.

I am not a Bible thumper, but these lines from Proverbs 3:25 and Isaia 8:10 do convince me, at least, to nod my head in retrospective agreement:

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Do not fear sudden terror, nor the destruction of the wicked when it comes. Contrive a scheme, but it will be foiled; conspire a plot, but it will not materialize, for God is with us

Mean · 11-03-2005, 08:33 AM

How can somebody who doesn't believe in God be so vocal in their stance against him? Isn't atheism defined by a lack of belief in God? I mean, can a person who doesn't believe in the existence of God really be so down on him?

I just...this whole atheism thing has my entire mind boggled...even the parts I don't use. Is atheism an easy escape from needing to believe in something. Is it a total lack of faith? What is the attraction to walking around not believing in God?

Lost · 11-03-2005, 11:10 AM

There is no proof of god, it bugs us in ways unparallel to your understanding, people wont stop trying to convert me, and several other reasons that piss me off when mentioned.

Inevidence is not evidence in itself, but reason to beleive the inevidenced subject is false.

teflon · 11-03-2005, 02:30 PM

Be assured, that's no attempt to convert anyone. It's an effort to ward off atheistic vandals.

Mean · 11-03-2005, 02:32 PM

http://www.religioustolerance.org/mettetal01.htm

I read this article written by an atheist. I respect the person who wrote this. He is an intelligent man who said what he had to say way better than any of you guys (the atheist posters) and way better than anything I have said to rebut.

I don't disrespect your "no religion" choice. I don't, however, respect the organization with which you've aligned yourself in that endeavor.

"Every religion is good that teaches man to be good; and I know of none that instructs him to be bad." That was said by Thomas Paine. I don't know for sure what he did other than being a journalist in the 1700s, but that statement has deep meaning.

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Originally Posted by Lost

Inevidence is not evidence in itself, but reason to beleive the inevidenced subject is false.

I have no idea what that means.

Elvenswordsman · 11-03-2005, 02:38 PM

well as it turns out god doesn't "Come straight to earth and help a weak student" because he helps those who depend on him and pray to him. We all might say these,some of which i mean to say because i am a christian, but i don't think your way of thinking is straight on.

Why would god help everyone with a problem? As jesus said in John 15:7,
"If you abide in me,and my words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you." That verse meaning that if you pray to him and abide in him, he wont give you everything you want like a new convertible, a pool, someone dead, but he will give you the things that you NEED when you ask for them because you will then understand what the difference between the two are. "The two" meaning what we want and what we need.

He doesn't give you this directly like" Dear lord give me a car" and you wake up with a viper sitting in your yard. He will provide as life goes on so that you dont ever fall into the pit of destruction, only if that is what he means to have happen to you. If god wills something to happen then something will. He will proide to you.

Now i'm only 13 but i am a full into the lord, our god, with all my heart. Why you cant accept this is because you don't have faith. The bible says that all you need is Faith to move a mountain, which happened and is proven in history and in the bible. In history though they don't have an idea why the mountain fell into the ocean but it happened because someone had enough faith to move this mountain.

You may not think i speak truly but it is the truth and i have enough faith to believe in it. You may say "not faith to believe in it but stupidity" but yet again this shows your lack of faith.

Mean · 11-03-2005, 02:40 PM

I also read a story about written by an atheist high school student.

A group of Christian students were gathered around doing their thing (praying and singing). The atheist children decided they would go over to the same area and "practice some of their beliefs". The story says the Christian students got angry and started threatening them. What do you suppose "practice some of their beliefs" means? What could they have been doing to provoke a bunch of Christian students who were previously engaged in worship into attacking them? I bet it wasn't anything peaceful. The student then complained to the principal because the Christian students attacked them and was upset when his group got in trouble.

Elvenswordsman · 11-03-2005, 02:47 PM

God doesn't put hate in the world, Hate was placed there when man first disobeyed god in genesis.

Also in James 1:6-7 it says "But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. For let not that man suppose that he will recieve anything from the Lord."

I doubt that this convinces you but i would love to talk to you about this and that and about your opinions.

Elvenswordsman · 11-03-2005, 02:58 PM

Atheism is a sin, not a belief. I guess you could believe in a sin but thats just stupid.

Atheists, more than likely, Worship idols. Not idols as in Budhism but idols as in Cars, sports, television, and so on, things created by man himself.

Here's something that'll boggle you. If there's no god answer this without doubting yourself.

A watch is in the middle of an open field. Obviously there was some sort of design that went into the watch, and for there to be a design there must be a designer.

If there is no god, how did evolution start? Obviously we couldn't have just popped out of nowheres because of the theories against the "Spontaneous generation" where they thought that maggots were just coming from out of nowhere but after putting a selectively permiable barrier across the top they noticed that the flies weren't able to get in and noticed that no maggots were on the meat.

Also that thing about the big bang, please tell me how these formed without a creator. If you can i will think on it and whatever god wills will happen.

Elvenswordsman · 11-03-2005, 03:02 PM

God also gave us free will and that is how we managed to screw the world to this point by disobeying gods will.

In order to make wise decisions and to abide in him he will give us what we need but not what we want because we will understand what the differences are between because of his word.

Elvenswordsman · 11-03-2005, 03:03 PM

Why worship something created by a man who sins every day?

Elvenswordsman · 11-03-2005, 03:07 PM

As said above you have deffinitely been mis informed. Do you have an

arguing-nonsense-talking-brother-in-law too?