nia mora

Mystery. Hasn't your mother ever taught you that if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say it at all?

Your idea of the "big metal x" has nothing to do with the idea I was implying with no originality left in the world. If you have paid ANY attention to literature or any type of writing you will notice that everything is based off of an archetype that has been copied many times before. For example: Iliad, Beowulf, Canterbury Tales.

Yes it is a critique board. Did you supply me with critique? No. You didn't even comment on my piece. All you did was add more ignorance and stupidity to the world. You may leave.

Come back when you read up on Carl Jung and classic literature.

Damian_Rucci

I understand that you don't need to be kind when your supplying a critique, but when your bashing someone themselves there is no need for it. So doing so online is idiotic and has no point. Understand what I'm saying? If you believe someones work is crap tell em so, but don't tell they failed at life or w/e

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T.W. North

WHOA WHOA WHOA. There is a fuckin' BIG difference between basing off/inspiration and unoriginality. What we have here is unoriginality, I can find lyrics with very very close wordings. Paolini is an author who fails in originality. If you want to look at unoriginality - look at those who INVENTED genres, look at Philip Pullman (who took INSPIRATION from others).

And please, if we all went by the saying you gave first there, no one would ever improve. Like, ever.

Although, I do applaud you for having a go back at Mystery in the mature way you do, not many people can manage that, however, you are wrong. (Plus, he's a uni student, I would bloody hope that he's read those things and I'd say you'll be getting a firey retort from him sometime soon.)

nia mora

Look I didn't even want to make this into a flame thread. I'm just trying to prove that my work isn't SHIT. The lyrics aren't original. But I did write it. And It sounds pretty damn good. Especially with the music I wrote to go along with it.

There is also a difference in opinion. I like it. Someone else likes it. You don't. Okay. Let's all except that. If neither of you liked it in the first pace you could have just kept your mouths shut or told me how fix it, NICELY.

Please, I didn't post this to hear that I suck OR that I was the next Mozart. I wanted to know how to improve. Hell, I'm looking up more on imagery despite the rude way it was told to me. Because I bet I could excel in that. And I appreciate you enlightening me.

Cynics may get far in life, but sometimes they never cross the finish line.

And for the record, I'm in college as well. So I'm not an English major. I'm a Psychology major.

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Mystery

No, personal, so you don't get to know why. I learned myself not to care about other peoples reactions if I know im right.

I'm gonna parallel to music because its my life.
In music there are many archetypes, 12 bar blues, 32 bar popular form, classic turnarounds etc. Using one to write a piece doesn't make it unoriginal. Let me give you an example. I've written 234 bars of Symphony. My idea? I took an archetype we call "modal" in music, and basically wrote a progression that goes from light funk to heavy funk, starting out with inversion chord solos and delves into abstract, rubato harmonic minor riffing with no syncopation(a standard of jazz and funk) with a flute and piano call and response section.

Here's another example, my teacher for jazz music wrote a piece thats basically up and down flow of 4ths. It's such a simple Idea, but find anyone else who's done it.

Tell me it's not original, then go find anyone else who's done even remotely the same thing. Using an Archetype doesn't make something unoriginal. Doing what many writers do, taking an archetype and using it exactly as it is by just altering the insignificant potions to sell is unoriginal, but if you go ahead and brand the rest of the artistic world as unoriginal, we are sure as hell going to kick your ass about it.

Original thinks emerge scarce and far apart, the problem is this world is too busy enjoying whatever makes life easy to try the original. This world will never run out of originality, not everyone can tap into it though.

Irony of you calling me stupid when you didn't even realize I was talking about the way you responded to someone else's criticism. Use your logic, if I know your reaction is pathetic why would I bother critiquing your work if you don't care what I say anyway?

I'm sorry I don't get my opinions and judgment from what other people think, I've studied classic literature for ages girly, I'm writing a semester paper on it despite the fact that my major is music. Don't tell me to read classic literature when you can't even understand an example.

I'll give you a suggestion, before saying something all conquering such as "there is no originality left" and not realizing how it offends people with professions like me(musician) because of what we strive for, think, experience, and make your own opinion. And remember, because it's opinion, doesn't mean its right, no, not even for you.

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nia mora

We are getting no where by trying to prove out opinions where neither of us will agree with the other. I certainly do apologize for offending you. If I knew that to begin with then I would have backed off. And if you knew you would offend me you should have backed off, regardless of your (not meaning this in a rude way) blunt personality. Like I said before, and the rules state this as well, critique is fine even if its negative. But to me, it hit me the in the wrong spot because it was borderline rude.

I really don't want to continue this battle of wits. We are both intelligent people in different ways (you are very smart in the music field, kudos), lets solve this intelligently by agreeing to disagree.

Truce?

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Foxee

The turn that the discussion has taken isn't helping anyone. This conversation needs to return to being a civil discussion of the OP. Now, please.

Edit: Offending post and quoting posts have been removed.

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