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    My first song post: "Smoke and Mirrors" [indie pop/mainstream lyrics]

    This is my first song post, so allow me to introduce to you my style of songwriting.

    What type of lyrics do you write?
    If I had to categorize my lyrics to the type of music and singer the genre would defiantly be within: electroclash, trip-hop and indie pop/mainstream.

    Although, the structure of my lyrics vary, I try my best to follow a logical format (like telling a story from begging, middle to end). Hooks are important to me, because I usually think up my lyrics first with their Hooks/Chorus and work afterwards on the verses.

    The melody is the hardest thing for me. When I write, I sometimes get the music playing in my head and other times I have no idea how the music would match into the lyrics. I strive to have a good rhythm to compensate, as I am only a lyric writer and not a musician or singer.

    Introducing my first posted song, for your input and thoughts.


    Comments welcomed!

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    Title: Smoke and Mirrors

    [Verse 1]
    Everything from this day on
    Was the result from your come on
    Innocent I was turned on
    By your charm
    Never expecting the storm
    That would come along

    [Pre-Chorus]
    Never did I know you
    Never did you know me
    Who knew what we could be
    Fortunes not turning up
    In our green tea

    [Chorus]
    You were nothing but
    Smoke and Mirrors
    Smoke and Mirrors
    You were never real

    You were nothing but
    Smoke and Mirrors
    Smoke and Mirrors
    Never intending
    To seal the deal

    [Verse 2]
    White lies
    Pop up on my screen
    Antivirus block
    My heart screams
    Air lock
    You had a girlfriend
    But never told me
    Talk more lies
    To me

    [Pre-Chorus]
    Never did I know you
    Never did you know me
    Who knew what we could be
    Fortunes not turning up
    In our green tea

    [Chorus]
    You were nothing but
    Smoke and Mirrors
    Smoke and Mirrors
    You were never real

    You were nothing but
    Smoke and Mirrors
    Smoke and Mirrors
    Never intending
    To seal the deal

    [Endtro]
    Now it’s up to me
    To make a new deal
    Learning from
    The unreal
    Noxicity likes this.
    Polonius:
    This above all: to thine own self be true,
    And it must follow, as the night the day,
    Thou canst not then be false to any
    man. Farewell, my blessing season this in thee!
    Hamlet Act 1, scene 3, ~ William Shakespeare

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    Thats awesome! keep up the good work. ~hip hop artist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Thats awesome! keep up the good work. ~hip hop artist.
    Thanks Jerry, much appreciated, do you write your own lyrics?
    Polonius:
    This above all: to thine own self be true,
    And it must follow, as the night the day,
    Thou canst not then be false to any
    man. Farewell, my blessing season this in thee!
    Hamlet Act 1, scene 3, ~ William Shakespeare

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    Hi Stephanie, I'm new here. I just read your lyrics and I thought they were excellent. The only suggestion I would make is your rhyme scheme in your 2nd verse doesn't match your first verse. Example:

    Everything from this day on/ The first 3 lines rhyme and the last 3 don't.
    Was the result from your come on
    Innocent I was turned on
    By your charm
    Never expecting the storm
    That would come along


    White lies
    Pop up on my screen/ The first 3 lines are not rhyming which makes the rhyming scheme a little awkward.
    Antivirus block
    My heart screams
    Air lock
    You had a girlfriend
    But never told me
    Talk more lies
    To me


    Please take this as a friendly suggestion to help your lyrics. This only from my perspective. Otherwise the lyrics, in my opinion our meaningful, show imagery, and are exceptional for your first lyrics. I enjoyed reading them.


    Summer Rose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summer Rose View Post
    Hi Stephanie, I'm new here. I just read your lyrics and I thought they were excellent. The only suggestion I would make is your rhyme scheme in your 2nd verse doesn't match your first verse. Example:

    Everything from this day on/ The first 3 lines rhyme and the last 3 don't.
    Was the result from your come on
    Innocent I was turned on
    By your charm
    Never expecting the storm
    That would come along


    White lies
    Pop up on my screen/ The first 3 lines are not rhyming which makes the rhyming scheme a little awkward.
    Antivirus block
    My heart screams
    Air lock
    You had a girlfriend
    But never told me
    Talk more lies
    To me


    Please take this as a friendly suggestion to help your lyrics. This only from my perspective. Otherwise the lyrics, in my opinion our meaningful, show imagery, and are exceptional for your first lyrics. I enjoyed reading them.


    Summer Rose
    Welcome to the forum. I’ve been here since last Aug and so far it’s been a positive site to be on. Thanks for your suggestions. I’m the type of person that is like a sponge, I just absorb, filtering out only self-improvement. I will take your advice into consideration. Do you write lyrics? Feel free to PM me the links to your writing on here. Cheers ~ Steph
    Polonius:
    This above all: to thine own self be true,
    And it must follow, as the night the day,
    Thou canst not then be false to any
    man. Farewell, my blessing season this in thee!
    Hamlet Act 1, scene 3, ~ William Shakespeare

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    Yes I just started to write lyrics, most of my songs are at Writing.com. I've written mostly short stories and poetry. Now, I'm trying my hand at lyrics. The songs I've written are mostly Country and Country Rock, Country Gospel. I thought I would find a lyrics feedback forum, because I wanted feedback from others who are also writing lyrics.

    Summer Rose

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    They're not bad for a first set of lyrics. Nothing really stands out as bad...but nothing really grabs the listener-there's not a real narrative hook or an indelible image such as the better sets of lyrics have. This is a fairly common sentiment...and the smoke and mirrors metaphor in the chorus is decent enough, but it would need some development in the verses to have more of an impact.
    McCartney's lyric for "I'm Looking Through You" echoes a bit of this.
    On the plus side, and way on the plus side, these are singable. I was able to fashion a simple chord progression right away. You're on the right track...I'd suggest looking at the work of lyricists like Paul Simon or Peter Gabriel and seeing how they extend a metaphor over an entire song.


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    I'm new here and really impressed by that lyric... I've just started to write lyrics so just trying to learn something from this forum...

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    I liked this, I would have preffered the second verse to be a bit more vague, coming right out with the other girlfriend thing just didn't work for me, however, while reading, I started hearing a melody and singing it to myself ^^ Given, it's probably nothing like what you're thinking (I hear light, a little breathy and melodic) Even the background music started coming through in my head.

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    [http://www.writingforums.com/prose-w...ml#post1593430] <3 I'd appreciate a critique!



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    This definitely has mainstream appeal.

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    Great imagery and well structured and worded. Very nice job, great write.

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