Thread: Dopetrain

The acoustic is harder to play than the electric or it is for me.... Regardless if I plug the puppy in or a not. That's how it feels for me.... I have too many issues with my hands, to begin with these days, resulting from an accident years ago. It causes spasms due to nerve damage making playing very difficult for me without giving myself a headache. Still, in general acoustic even before all that acoustic guitars are simply harder to play and feel it lies in the general construction of the guitar itself. I could be wrong.

Originally Posted by MTMarshall

I've already stated how I love the piece but what you have stated after regarding the widespread use of drugs by government sanctions more than disturbing.The fact that this has to do with an entire area or people sounds as as an intentional assault against the people on the part of the government. It's sounds very much a means to keep people from engaging in life in affect allowing the powers that be to rule in any manner they so deem. This is a very scary scenario and I consider it to a declaration of war proclaimed by the government against its own people. if i'm not making sense it cause this really pisses me off. You better get this puppy (song) moving and bringing this issue to light. Things like this do not happen by accident. This story needs to be told well beyond this forum.

The greatest threat to any government oir nation are it's own people not any foreign elements. Once the people turn on the powers that be the game on its way out...the final stage comes when the military turns on them and them the game is all or and the only thing left is in taking their heads is over. It's just how it always works.

Fondly,
Miriam

Oh, I plan on more than a song. I've been researching this for the past three years, and I'm planning to do a documentary in collaboration with a friend of mine currently in film school. The tenative title is Something To Wake Up On and it delves back to what I consider the beginning of the whole mess: the vast series of lawsuits over Black Lung disease, what I call "The Black Lung Legacy." In a huge, sprawling, weird settlement, the tens of thousands of plaintiffs were awarded monetary damages and free medical care. That free medical care looks oddly like free drug testing for pharma companies.

In short, huge amounts of pain and nerve medication flooded the Appalachian area. The winners of the suit were generally elderly and dying by that point, so most of those drugs ended up with their kids and grand-kids and was sold on the streets. After that, the state and federal rehab programs moved in. I have a cousin who was addicted to oxycodone for two years. She entered rehab and has now been on Methadone and Ceboxin (an incredibly potent methadone replacement) for over five years, with no plans to take her off. The clinics (and the many programs that run them) are receiving huge amounts of tax-dollars to 'help' people, so each person in the system is a big flashing dollar sign.

My friend plans on using this as his thesis film, and I simply want to make it. It will piss a lot of people off and has the potential to get folks in trouble.

Originally Posted by MTMarshall

The acoustic is harder to play than the electric or it is for me.... Regardless if I plug the puppy in or a not. That's how it feels for me.... I have too many issues with my hands, to begin with these days, resulting from an accident years ago. It causes spasms due to nerve damage making playing very difficult for me without giving myself a headache. Still, in general acoustic even before all that acoustic guitars are simply harder to play and feel it lies in the general construction of the guitar itself. I could be wrong.

I agree with you in one way: electric guitar is way easier than acoustic... mainly because it's designed to go through an amp and therefore has very low action (space between fretboard and strings) which in general makes it simpler to press the strings down.

Acoustic is the real instument in my opinion, it takes more skill to play the full chords than the power chords of an electric. Oh, side note, electric guitars aren't so good when you play chords with all strings. For example if you tried to play a C with all four (three if you're taught differently) fingers it'll sound pretty bad. But if you stuck two fingers on the C powerchord you'll find it sounds awesome... it's the opposite on acoustic.

Cheers,
Cefor

Cefor...with all due respect, that's bushwah.
Electric guitar is generally easier to play than acoustic, that's true. But the reason isn't "the low action designed to play though an amp". That's a side effect. Electric guitar strings are made to vibrate faster and are of far smaller gauges (thinner) than acoustic strings. That makes them easier to hold down, and the necks of most electric guitars are narrower than those of acoustics, since they're built to accommodate the thinner strings.
You can play any kind of chord on any kind of guitar and it'll sound just fine. Seriously. You just need to practice.
MTMarshall, you're absolutely right, for the reasons I stated. It can also depend on the type of guitar-for instance my Ovation Celebrity plays easier than a lot of cheaper electrics, and I've played things like Teleacoustics that have electric guitar necks.
If you're having a LOT of trouble, I'd suggest you move to an instrument with nylon strings. They can be had really cheap (I have a Jay Turser model that I got from eBay for 50 bucks), and nylon strings aren't subject to the extreme string tension that metal strings are. You might also think about working with a 3/4 size axe as that'll allow your hands to relax and possibly won't trigger as many spasms. There are a lot of good ones out there.
Hope that helps.

Oh sorry didnt see you'd replied, though the only reason I came to look is because of the other thread in which you accused me of knowing nothing about guitars.

Right, I'll correct something I said. Power chords, fifths, whatever, are okay on acoustics too. But I stand by my opinion on open chords with electrics. In my experience they sound shit, pure and simple. Especially with distortion or some other effect on the sound.

Cheers,
Cefor

My opinion is that your opinion is tremendously uninformed. Given that open (cowboy) chords used with distortion are a staple of popular music, I stand by mine.

Cool, whatever.

Originally Posted by Cefor

I agree with you in one way: electric guitar is way easier than acoustic... mainly because it's designed to go through an amp and therefore has very low action (space between fretboard and strings) which in general makes it simpler to press the strings down.

The action is lower because electric guitars dont have a resonance chamber and need to relly on magnets, you can elevate your magnets and your action to where it might as well be an acoustic guitar. Know what you are talking about, being designed to go into an amp doesnt have fuckall to do with why electric guitars are compact.

Acoustic is the real instument in my opinion, it takes more skill to play the full chords than the power chords of an electric. Oh, side note, electric guitars aren't so good when you play chords with all strings. For example if you tried to play a C with all four (three if you're taught differently) fingers it'll sound pretty bad. But if you stuck two fingers on the C powerchord you'll find it sounds awesome... it's the opposite on acoustic.

Goddamn this is the kind of shit I hear daily at music school and recordings and I need to smash my face against a wall to even remotely recover.

They are all real instruments. I could just as easily say a troopers lute is the real instrument because its a lot fucking harder to learn to play than any guitar, dont spread your dipshitted ideas because you dont actually have any versatility with instruments. And hte power chords on an electric? What are you smoking, power chords are theory, no chord belongs to any instrument, and it all comes from the classisists, You can powerchord a piano...

Make sense, electric guitar does not = distortion, and even then you get condensors and equalizors and shit to make distorted tones make chords sound insane.

Take a chill pill. I'm not going to listen to you when you're going off on one mate.