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Old 08-15-2007, 12:48 AM   #1
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Just a question...

So how many people here have had their stuff PUBLISHED? I'd really like to hear about the whole process if anyone is willing to tell
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:59 AM   #2
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Meh, I haven't been published or submitted anything to a publishing house as of yet...in the future I would like to be published, but for that to happen I need to get good at writing, and for that to happen I have to write and hope that I continue improving until I finally am good...

Anyway, a good book on publishing is The First Five Pages...I've skimmed through it and the author makes a few good points and seems to know his stuff...
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:59 AM   #3
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Several of us have.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:39 AM   #4
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I wrote. I submitted. I was published.

That's basically what there is to it. Write something. Edit (a lot). And submit the work to the proper places/agents, depending on what you're going for. (Edit some more in the mean time. )
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:15 AM   #5
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I's not so hard to be published, it's harder to be sold and then again and again.

People I know who have been published based on their writing alone as opposed to documenting their career or as a side door entry tend to have
acheived it through artistic grants and most often by way of University scholarship.
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:47 AM   #6
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People I know who have been published based on their writing alone... tend to have
acheived it through artistic grants and most often by way of University scholarship.
Grants and scholarships? Grow up. Most people get published through hard work.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:48 AM   #7
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My first "published" item was a 500 word letter to the editor that got printed in a newspaper. I was 20. Procedure: Write a letter with something marginally intelligible to say, post it to the editor.

I loved seeing my words in print, and I was hooked.

My first paid published item was a piece of non-fiction (actually a 36,000 word supplement for a game). I was 34, and you wouldn't believe how many words I'd written and junked in the intervening fourteen years; millions and millions.

I wrote a few query letters, got a request for a sample, sent the sample, and got a contract a couple of days later.

The editor liked it a lot, and I liked the project; I asked if there was anything else I could do to help. He asked me if I'd do a little copy-editing for him on some other submissions, which I did, and he was pleased.

I've sent him various bits and pieces more writing since, most of which earned me a little money. Once I had that reasonably personal relationship with credible editor in that field, submissions became a matter of "attach text file to email, click send, get reply a couple of days later."

Then he retired, so I started sending my work to half a dozen editors at once--a practice for which I've been widely criticised on this site!--but it worked for me.

A year or so ago, I figured out that I'd probably earned nearly half as much from my writing as I would have done from spending that amount of time flipping burgers.

I experimented with self-publishing, with modest and indifferent success.

Now I'd like to try to turn my hand to fiction, but I'm struggling to write something that I love enough, as yet.

Edited to add: I've just realised that never in my life have I sent a submission formatted in courier. Most people advise that you do that, though.
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Old 08-16-2007, 07:36 AM   #8
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Grow Up? You grow up - I have three friends through hard fucking work and grants get a leg up. Actually I have one who has already made it worldwide and his novel was turned into a hollywood movie and he's STILL using grants
towards his next project.
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Biggles: What was the novel that was made into a movie? (If you don't mind me asking.)
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i'd like to know, too!
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Aah...this friend of yours is Luke Davies?
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That's him. He was my first serious long term boyfriend MANY years ago.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:07 AM   #14
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Well I can honestly say that of the hundred or so published writers I've worked with, not a single one had grants to rely on. Some made enough money to live from their writing, some had day jobs. And university graduates (writing, not other subjects) are a small minority. As to how many of those had scholarships to subsidise their writing I couldn't tell you, but it'll me a minority of a minority.

Who gives these grants? I think I'd like one.

Why is there this persistent numbskull thinking that if someone gets published it's because of some hokum the rest of us don't have access to, either a grant, scholarship, insider knowledge, whatever? It's just a fuckwit safety blanket that failed writers can snuggle up to at night, consoling themselves with the thought that they, too, would have been successful if only they'd had a grant or a scholarship.

Writers succeed because they have the drive, determination and talent (generally in that order) to succeed, or fail because they lack one or more of the three. Not because they didn't get a grant.
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You can't rely on grants esp not in Australia. They are so miniscule, I think it's more a matter of giving credit for your work.
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