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View Poll Results: Is smoking around children child abuse?
Yes! Children's lungs are fragile & should be protected from such poisons. 4 36.36%
Tough laws are needed to protect children from secondhand smoke. 3 27.27%
No one has the right to tell parents how to raise their child. 3 27.27%
I smoke outside. Our screen door protects my child. That's enough. 1 9.09%
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Old 08-11-2007, 10:22 PM   #1
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Is smoking around children child abuse?

Is smoking around children child abuse? Please take this poll and share your thoughts on this issue. I'm interested to know what you think. Thank you for your feedback.
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Old 08-11-2007, 10:28 PM   #2
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No, not really...it's probably not the most beneficial thing for your kid, filling their lungs with tar, but it's not abuse...just shitty judgement.
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Old 08-11-2007, 10:38 PM   #3
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I do not smoke in front, around, or near the general vicinity of my stepdaughter. As to your question,I don't think it's abuse, but I have respect for her lungs and future. Parents that think it is ok to do so are beyond stupid. Just because we choose to shorten our life span and fill our lungs with addictive carcinogens doesn't mean we have to subject kids to our bad habits.

Actually, I think I heard of a law trying to be passed that it is illegal to smoke in your car if children present...Not sure if it's true but I wouldn't be surprised.
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:00 PM   #4
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People are stupid. Observe: there's a common superstition that breathing second hand smoke is almost as harmful as smoking the cigarette itself.

In actuality, you damage your lungs MUCH more by roasting marshmallows or hot dogs over a camp fire than you do by being around someone who smokes. You also damage your lungs just as much by driving a car on the road where other vehicles drive.

There is no real link between lung problems (unless you're asthmatic, in which case anything from perfume to pollen could cause an attack) and second hand smoke—the original report issued by the EPA stating there was was recently struck down by a judge because the EPA "cherry-picked" data to support its case and discarded anything to the contrary.

Another superstition: tobacco smoke is bad because the tobacco companies put all sorts of chemicals in it. Also wrong. ANY burning plant matter will contain all the trace elements of various chemicals that burning tobacco does.
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:14 PM   #5
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In actuality, you damage your lungs MUCH more by roasting marshmallows or hot dogs over a camp fire than you do by being around someone who smokes. You also damage your lungs just as much by driving a car on the road where other vehicles drive.
Well, yeah. Common sense says that if I am roasting hot dogs or driving behind a truck and either one is spewing out black smoke (or any smoke) it could be hazardous. I hope people are smart enough to think that one through.
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:37 PM   #6
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Wood smoke is actually far more damaging to your body than tobacco smoke.

But most of the particulate matter you inhale while driving is invisible. Diesel engines are obviously worse because they spew more soot, but gasoline engines also release a fair amount, and it builds up around the road. Everyone breathes it in.
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:42 PM   #7
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on that note, I am going for a smoke
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Old 08-12-2007, 10:58 AM   #8
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if i dont teach my child the difference between a nice cohiba and a foul Trinidad cigar, who will? Children just arent thought that ring gauge is everything any more.

They should think themselves lucky to inhale any of MY cuban smoke.
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Old 08-12-2007, 12:17 PM   #9
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I figure people smoke around their kids because their lives are ruined and they are trying to get rid of the problem.

Just a joke, but come on? You are a parent. Get over yourself. No one has the right to tell you how to raise your child? Screw you. I pay taxes for schools that I will never use. I think I should have some say when I see parents driving down the highway, their windows are rolled up, and they are smoking with their kids in the back. Why don't you take that money you spend on cigarettes and pay me back.

It is a bad habit and a bad example to set for your kids. If you want to do whatever you want then don't have kids.
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Old 08-12-2007, 12:40 PM   #10
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No, its just bad. "Is this woman a witch because she did something socially inappropriate?" To say it is abuse is idiotic. I need a cig now.
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In the last fortnight, I visited my youngest daughter in England and found that she and her husband don’t allow smoking in their house or cars because of their three-year old child. They both smoke, as do I, and I found myself satisfying my craving in wet fields, sheltering under trees. I didn’t mind, it made sense to me.

However, when she and her child returned to Spain with me, I put my foot down and smoked where I always smoke, usually on my terrace; everybody smokes here anyway.

Yet, I think she was right to protect her child as best she could and I’m about to try and give up yet again anyway. I would benefit from giving up on a few other things as well.
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cigarette smokers should be shot on sight any way, only cigars have some sort of nice taste, they dont have DDT or any of that crap added either.
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cigarette smokers should be shot on sight any way, only cigars have some sort of nice taste, they dont have DDT or any of that crap added either.
Fuck off.
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EVERYTHING is child abuse. Probably including having children.
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on that note, I am going for a smoke
Dammit, I'm going to end up eating this nicotine patch.
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