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10-12-2008, 09:16 PM
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Profound Writer
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Ayn Rand and "Bioshock"
So there's this game. It's titled "Bioshock." It's a 360 title that has recently jumped ship to PS3, bringing with it a demo for PS3 users to download and play. This is a question to those who have read Ayn Rand and/or played Bioshock.
In the opening of the game, some dude whom I will assume owned the city speaks out against the government, god, others, etc. He preaches the ideals of man serving only himself. I immediately thought, "Hey, sounds like Fountainhead."
After I swim my way to a building and head down an elevator, I am forced to pick up a radio and commiserate with some dude who goes by the name "Atlas." I then thought, "Hey, Atlus Shrugged."
The whole time I'm playing this game I keep thinking it's a big "Fuck You," to Ayn Rand's ideals. Not that I care, but it was something I noticed and laughed at.
The above stated, my question is thus: to those have played the full version of Bioshock and have read one of the novels of Ayn Rand, are there more, er, unintentional references to her? Maybe? Sort'a?
Just curious.
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10-12-2008, 09:23 PM
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You do know it's on PC as well? 
But no, I played a bit and hated it. It's just System Shock 2 without all the good parts. *sigh*
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10-12-2008, 09:26 PM
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System Shock kicked ass. I haven't played this one, but I'm going to have to try it now. It does sound like Rand references.
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10-12-2008, 09:27 PM
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I'd say skip this one, but that's just me and pretty much everyone else I know who played System Shock... 
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10-12-2008, 10:54 PM
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The first time I played this was at my friend's house on the 360. We'd rented it, bored of it, and put it away. I thought what the hell downloading the demo and noticed now the references I'd missed before (I'd not yet read Rand).
So WriterDude...you see FarCry 2? I'm buying that bad boy opening day.
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10-12-2008, 10:57 PM
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And Malone, I'm sure you'll like it. You seem to dwell in the gritty, and this has it in abundance. The ambience is expertly presented, and the visual style is excellent.
It's just too bad that the gameplay itself is so boring (my opinion. I believe the game garnered a good many awards the year it came out on 360).
FarCry 2 is going to rock so much ass, though. That and Resistance 2 are the only two games I'm buying this year. Mmmmmhm.
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10-13-2008, 12:40 AM
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That game is all about atmosphere, as far as I'm concerned. The game play is decent, especially on the PC version, but the feel of the game, in my opinion, is superb.
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10-13-2008, 01:01 AM
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System Shock and System Shock 2 were both atmosphere based as well.
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10-13-2008, 01:06 AM
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Yes. Anti-objectivism is a major theme of the game. I played parts of it, I don't get alot of enjoyment out of games but my brother played it all the way through, and throughout the game we had several arguments about objectivism, which is really the only reason I know that off hand.
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10-13-2008, 06:11 AM
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I've got Andrew Ryan's opening words looping on my PC and satellite speakers.
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10-13-2008, 06:14 AM
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i've never been a fan of ayn rand, anything
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