Writ-with-Hand

Take a chill pill, dude. I don't know if you missed tea time or what?

It was a question meant for generalization even if it meant heavy generalization.

Or maybe you're just mad, don't feel like a man, because unlike Non, you never busted a nut with a "Tan." (Damn, I should become a rapper, that was pretty good )

I can make generalizations about Brazilian Amazonian Indians in comparison to North American Indians in the United States. I could say, "Yeah, many Indians in the U.S. are collecting money from profits from casinos, they've finally arrived as a people as capitalist. Some even drive big cars and live in big mansions." Foxwoods Resort Casino And I could generalize and say "Indians in Brazil are considered 'full blooded,' and they largely live in abject poverty, and some still run around half naked in the jungle whittling arrows."

There is some truth in both because culture does press what sociologist would say are mores and customs on people. Of course that does not mean both examples would hold true on all individuals.

Now, the U.K. young lady that responded on that other forum did point out, something almost on the lines in which you did, but not quite. What she said was that you can find racism in Europe or simply those that do not prefer at all to court or date black women. However, she noted that in the big cities of Europe it is extremely common and from her experience observation more so then the U.S. cities she visited. She said if she posted pictures of interracial couples in Paris that she would be posting all day. She pretty much implied the same thing about London.

I realize all that is anecdotal, I'm just telling you what she said, if you have a different opinion fine, I'm just asking a question.

Destroyer

I'm from Harwich, the shit-end of England. Why do you ask?

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"Say, whaddya call a black girl with a runny nose?"
"I dunno, what DO you call a black girl with a runny nose?"
"Full!"

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Writ-with-Hand

Oh... I don't know. Maybe because your profile gives your location as the safety of your head and because your initial response could be construed as coming from a Yank?

Cipher2

Ok i realise this isnt the debate forum. I see where you are coming from. Maybe some societies or communities are more racist than the one I am a part of. my annoyance however was due to the poster on Yahoo, sounding racist and insecure, like "why do men prefer these black women to me?"

Sam Winchester

Or, "Once you go black, you never go back."

I'm going to make a horrible generalisation right now. In my opinion, black women are either stunningly gorgeous, or they're complete mingers. There seems to be no middle ground.

To answer the OP's original question - no, I don't think that's the case. Even if it was, what's wrong with it? Is there still a problem with white people dating or marrying black people?

If I was dating a black woman and my parents didn't give their consent for me to marry her, I'd slap them in the face and tell them to wise up.

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SevenWritez

It's funny because it's true. I wonder how good black women are in bed? When I was getting my license this beautiful black girl (she was light-skinned and had these beautiful emerald eyes, so I assumed she was mixed) kept hitting on me. The problem was that she thought I was 20, and when I told her what I was there for, and how old I was, she just became friendly.


So, to those who have had white and black, what is your stereotypical take?

Non Serviam

Like other women but with different colour skin.

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That's the first time anyone's ever called me a yank? Could it not be that maybe I'm just not that picky about things?

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Writ-with-Hand

I didn't find her comment or sentiment racist. I think she noted in her essay that her black friends were attractive looking if I remember correctly?

Anyways, her sentiments of "my race" and what's "my dues" are not exclusive to white people and they are fairly common racial sentiments in the United States. Don't believe me? Log on to any site geared toward Black-Americans and search the threads started by black women.

I've had some of these feelings myself in the past and I'm mulatto. I think you'll find most mulattoes in the U.S. identify as black, many times are part of that culture, and I think you'll probably find many if not most think blacks (which includes mulattoes or "biracials" if you prefer) should stick to blacks when it comes to dating or especially marriage.

Contrary to the frequent rantings of Black-American women, most Black-American men won't marry a white woman. Many won't even date white women or girls. Doing so can incur upon you the wrath of black passer-by's.

Let me make it clear here, so as not to be misunderstood and to put this on the record. I don't think the United States is the most racist country in the world or is the country with the worse racial relations among its citizens. But if you asking if string racial antagonisms exists in the United States then I would have to say yes. (if you asked me if this country can be a very dangerous and harsh place for black males I would say yes and even suggest they might possibly prosper much better in certain other countries if they relocated - but that's another thread)

I don't think any thing is wrong with white men or white men from or in Europe dating or marrying black or specifically Black-American women, Sam. As we say in the U.S., "It's all good" to me. Saying, "It's all good," basically mean I have no problem with it.

Yeah, there is still a problem in the U.S. with what we term "interracial dating" or "interracial marriage." But again, the "beef" is not exclusive to White-Americans. I think you'll find it amongst Asian-Americans (I've read numerous of online complain about Asian dating outside there "race"), Latin-Americans, Whatever-American and sure as hell among Black-Americans.

I doubt a month - literally - passes without at least one black online magazine, blog, or essay put up about Black-American men abandoning black women for white women (whom many in Black-America sometimes like to refer to as "Snow Bunnies").

White-American men, in my opinion, by-in-large will or would not put up with the domineering and frequent challenging that is very often trait of Black-American women in Black-American culture. "Strength" is associated with being abrasive and confrontational as opposed to say... a quite confidence and ability to persuade through charm.

Most interactions between whites and blacks in the U.S. is still relatively superficial. I will assume over time this will change, as it has already improved over the decades. Nonetheless, it still remains relatively superficial today.

At the rare family gatherings between the two sides of my family, I have taken it upon myself since my youth, to be that bouncing ball that interacts and tries to bridge those two different worlds.

So, since these worlds don't really know each other that well, that can be a natural as opposed to racist, obstacle to them ever dating or marrying one another.

It's very difficult to break your frame of reference, and for some people this can take a life altering experience for it to happen. Even though my white mother married my white father, she still for most her life viewed the world, like most white feminists and or men, as being dangerous and trapping for girls and women. Black feminists and or men typically view the world as dangerous and trapping for boys and men. Two different worlds, two different experiences, two different frames of reference. The middle-class, white, neighborhood my mother was raised up in was far different (and hell, remains so) culturally from the middle-class, black, neighborhood me an my brothers were raised up in. With no exaggeration its amazing they are in the same city because if not different countries then certainly different geographical states they feel like.

I don't think most cities in the U.S., especially major ones, have any problem with what let us call... "the mulatto" product. And let us understand seeing that automatically knows, instinctively understands, a black and white sexual union took place to produce that outcome or product.

I say this because it relates to your statement or query asking if there still remains a problem for Black-Americans and White-Americans dating and so forth.

When I traveled down South with my mother, there were some white women in some of the smaller towns (brandishing the biggest goddamn Confederate flags you have ever seen ) gave her disapproving looks when they saw her with me. Either they figured I was her son or they might have thought she was dating me. So, in certain areas of the U.S. it's not the most encouraged thing.

Writ-with-Hand

Eh... while it is true certain physical characteristics are generally, across the boards for all races, viewed as more attractive then others, it also remains true that "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

For example, I find many black women, even with broader features, attractive looking, especially in the context of the whole package, which includes hips, thighs, tits and ass.

White women give the best blow-jobs. Then again, Bill Maher did hook up with Superhead.

Writ-with-Hand

This might help slightly in understanding what I was talking about.

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