Blood

So, we can witness everything up to that point, and then nothing since? Hmmm, interesting, please expound.

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Malone

Well, yeah. Scientists can use computers to recreate up to a millionth of a million of a second (or more) before the big bang.
So, if you're arguing that we can't see creation, you're right.

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Malone

Wait...and everything since pretty much, after the inclusion of archeology and cosmology. It's that fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second before that we don't know, which is admittedly an incredibly important fractionl

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Blood

I see. I think it's the most plausible explanation.

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Blood

Was time born with the universe, along with all other physical laws? Maybe that important fraction was the death of the last universe.

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DarkHorse220

No, I made a comment. If lin wants to come in and share his "wisdom", he's welcome to do so. I don't expect it to be anything but trolling/name-calling, though, since that seems to be his thing.

The thread was started, I assume, to comment on the quoted material in the OP.

I don't believe in the Big Bang.

I've just seen enough evidence to agree that it's a reasonable conclusion based on observation of the universe. I'm not married to the idea in any way beyond that.

What you're assuming is a belief is nothing more than looking at the evidence and saying "yeah, that's the most reasonable idea so far".

Do Christians do that with God?

Malone

Um...How is a Christian God in anyway reasonable?

I'm not arguing the point about the Big Bang, as I have doubts as well, but bringing religion into it seems silly.

Fifteen billion years ago there was a small ball of matter. It expanded and formed stars then planets then life. That's amazing enough for me.

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Malone

And there were only two element in the beginning. Shawn can probably specify, but I know it was ?Oxygen? and Hydrogen that compacted into stars and formed all the others.

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DarkHorse220

The current thought process is that matter coalesced from a "sea of quarks" after <insert magical creation process>.

From these quarks, the first nucleons and electrons appeared, then after further cooling, atoms were able to form from those ions.

This would have been light elements at first, your helium and hydrogen and probably not much else.

It would take quite awhile, long enough for the first stars to form and go supernova, before anything heavier appeared.

Malone

Of course. I know it was hydrogen and something, I just can't remember the other. I am officially a moron. What I've studied has come to the conclusion that two (whatevers) including hydrogen that formed "X" element and every element there after due to super novas and star implosions.
I think you clearly know more than me, Darky.


I finally figured out how to attribute quotes to members!

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Blood

Actually, it was a "sea of barking quarks." Come on Dark horse, get it together!

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Malone

I'm gonna go beat off to Wings re-runs.

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lin

Scientists can use computers to create just about any fucking fantasy they want to believe. That's kind of the point of this thread

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DarkHorse220

Right, and Christianity is better because....it has a book!

That's way better than, you know, looking at things and trying to figure them out.

lin

Ah, somebody's talking about science. So obviously DorkHor has to jump in and start raving about the bible.

After all, life is pretty much one or the other, isn't it?

What a fucking tool this guy is. One track mind that's narrow guage.

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