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Baron · 01-15-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete_C

Okay, my issues are that a genre will NOT be catered for because some will see it as an opportunity to stick their commercial offerings in front of more faces rather than representing what it should be. Poetry and Spoken Word are not the same, but who cares? Frankly you've already decided what the case is, and no amount of reality will change that. Run a challenge with Poetry and Spoken Word, meaningless as it will be. Throw in gardening if you want, and maybe a bit of welding for good measure.

I give up. I've got to iron my suit. Of course, when I say iron I mean eat, and when I say suit I mean some cheese, but it's all the same thing, eh?

Enjoy!

and a storm in a teacup is just that. A suggestion has been made that a link to a sound file may be included with submissions. The sound file would obviously be a recital of the poem submitted and so the issue of genre doesn't apply. If it did then you would have to limit the challenge to only a specific genre and it doesn't work that way an nor should it.

Ilasir Maroa · 01-15-2008, 04:00 PM

Maybe I'm just naive or ignorant, but I'n not sure where all this stuff about marketing is coming from. I've never encountered anything in my time anywhere on this site that matches what you seem to be describing Pete. Of course, I don't pay much attention to signatures, either.

Also, I don't see how a small link to a "sound file" version of the poem in any way brings "Spoken Word" into this competition. I'm not even sure why this argument is here. All I see is a reference to a sound file of the piece, which according to you Pete, isn't "Spoken Word" at all. Can someone please point to the post involving spoken word being used in the contest? Perhaps we'd have a bit less arguing if people kept their arguments in the proper threads.

Baron · 01-15-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilasir Maroa

Maybe I'm just naive or ignorant, but I'n not sure where all this stuff about marketing is coming from. I've never encountered anything in my time anywhere on this site that matches what you seem to be describing Pete. Of course, I don't pay much attention to signatures, either.

Also, I don't see how a small link to a "sound file" version of the poem in any way brings "Spoken Word" into this competition. I'm not even sure why this argument is here. All I see is a reference to a sound file of the piece, which according to you Pete, isn't "Spoken Word" at all. Can someone please point to the post involving spoken word being used in the contest? Perhaps we'd have a bit less arguing if people kept their arguments in the proper threads.

Pete is referring to my sig and Mister Jack's, although how what we have in our signatures hurts him in any way is beyond me.

Thank you for confirming what I said about the audio file. I also agree about keeping the discussion in the right thread, and would add that personal issues that people may have are not relevant to the discussion.

Shawn · 01-15-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete_C

Poetry and Spoken Word are not the same, but who cares? Frankly you've already decided what the case is, and no amount of reality will change that. Run a challenge with Poetry and Spoken Word, meaningless as it will be. Throw in gardening if you want, and maybe a bit of welding for good measure.

An audio file does not change the nature of the challenge at all. And, if there are not any entries, there might not be a competition.

When one enters a painting into a contest, it is customary to provide a brief exposition on the medium and materials used and the theme. Now, I think we can agree that expository writing and 2d art are hardly in the same genre. However, the painting is not judged on the exposition, it's judged on the painting. That's what's happening here. Many people have expressed interest in posting readings of their poems and I have assented.

I accepted to administer this challenge because I value poetry in all forms, whether it be verbal or written, and because it would be a horribly wasted opportunity to be aware of poetry in a healthy way. Take the challenge for what it is worth, or do not partake at all.

Baron · 01-15-2008, 06:16 PM

I think that it would be great if as much enthusiasm could be given to actually producing some work for the challenge as has been given to expressing opinions about it.

Ilasir Maroa · 01-15-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron

I think that it would be great if as much enthusiasm could be given to actually producing some work for the challenge as has been given to expressing opinions about it.

It's easy to enthuse about something that avoids work. Not so easy when you are stumped and have to sit down and slog it out with your empty brain.

Mermaid on the breakwater · 01-15-2008, 06:58 PM

I am empty on this subject, I've sat down twice to write since being informed of the topic but can't think of a single phrase, let alone poem.

Baron · 01-15-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid on the breakwater

I am empty on this subject, I've sat down twice to write since being informed of the topic but can't think of a single phrase, let alone poem.

Maybe that's what makes it a challenge?

I thought that something like desert war would be there in your agenda somewhere.

Ilasir: The desert is a great natural environment that should be an easy one for you.

If I end up being the only one to post do I win by default?

Olly Buckle · 01-16-2008, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid on the breakwater

I am empty on this subject, I've sat down twice to write since being informed of the topic but can't think of a single phrase, let alone poem.

That strikes me as totally appropriate for the subject.(Unless it's sticky toffee pudding)
I have only just picked up on what it is, hope I have some time left, never mind if not I'll just put it in poetry, like I said I don't care about winning, it's the challenge.

Mermaid on the breakwater · 01-16-2008, 06:28 AM

Don't mind me - I am just muttering.

Baron · 01-16-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid on the breakwater

Don't mind me - I am just muttering.

Take a look at the Robert Frost poem that I posted in the published poetry forum.

http://www.writingforums.com/publish...ert-frost.html

Mirror · 01-16-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn

Due to a recent suggestion, it might be quite fun to include an audio recording of your poem. Host on another site, link in your post. And, please, keep the links tidy, short, and one per entry.

It would be a good idea to distinguish spoken word from recitation.

Baron · 01-16-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mirror

It would be a good idea to distinguish spoken word from recitation.

This is simply a matter of posting a voice file with the poem submitted to the challenge so that argument really doesn't relate here. Any poem submitted should be allowed to have a spoken recording regardless of that poem being considered "spoken word".

The issue being raised is fatuous anyway because there should be no restrictions placed on sound files that are not placed on the normal poetry forum.

Mirror · 01-16-2008, 03:08 PM

Fair enough.

vangoghsear · 01-16-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron

If I end up being the only one to post do I win by default?

Sounds good to me. =D>

Oh, by the way, I am, as of now, the only one to post.