Thread: Adventure writers wanted

Originally Posted by Fantasygirl

That publication, as I said, would barely pass as acceptable for a Middle School newspaper. I hold a BSN (RN) and have been through my fair share of English courses. As I said I don't have time right now to detail everything, but you will get a detailed critique tomorrow.

In the mean time, post up some images of past issues.

You're a nurse? Wow that qualifies you to critique writing, alright.

Originally Posted by wayn007

You're a nurse? Wow that qualifies you to critique writing, alright.

Yes in fact it does. The college I went to required various research critiquing courses. Research articles are held at an extremely high level of clarity and as a result contain impeccable English writing. Again tomorrow you will see me tear about your publication that has been going on somehow for six years and has upwards of three thousand readers. At that point you may question me on my English critique skills. However there is a reason no one has complimented you at all on your cover page and that is because it's horrid and amateurish.

I have a couple questions for you. What qualifications do you have to be a writer/publisher?

Also exactly where is this publication from you available? I'll be in Indiana next month and wouldn't mind picking up the May issue.

Who do you have to be to say something sucks? Who are YOU to say so?
You're just digging youself deeper and deeper into a pit of shit, here kid.

And for what?

You're already insulted everybody here, shown that you are a bitchy little critic who knows nothing about writing and little about publishing and that you have no respect.

You can try to blame this on me if it makes it feel better, but you dug your own grave here. And had SEVERAL opportunities to turn it around. I gave you about three tips at the start, which you ignored because you just wanted so sound off and justify yourself and rant.

Originally Posted by Fantasygirl

Yes in fact it does. The college I went to required various research critiquing courses. Research articles are held at an extremely high level of clarity and as a result contain impeccable English writing. Again tomorrow you will see me tear about your publication that has been going on somehow for six years and has upwards of three thousand readers. At that point you may question me on my English critique skills. However there is a reason no one has complimented you at all on your cover page and that is because it's horrid and amateurish.

I didn't post it for compliments, I posted it because people were questioning my legitimacy as a writer and publisher.
And BTW, critiquing research articles hardly qualifies you to critique either fiction writing or graphic design.

I have a couple questions for you. What qualifications do you have to be a writer/publisher?
Absolutely nothing, except a dream, a bit of talent, the ambition and the courage to start my own business, and the fact that I have been doing it for six years
Also exactly where is this publication from you available? I'll be in Indiana next month and wouldn't mind picking up the May issue.

Where in Indiana will you be? You can pick it up at several stores in the town of Berne, about 32 miles southeast of Ft. Wayne, as well as several rural businesses in Adams and Allen Counties.

BTW, if you have constructive advice to offer, I am professional enough to accept it, but if your only purpose to this critique is to tear apart the publication, don't even bother. You seem to be the type of person who gets a few years of college under her belt, and automatically assumes she knows a bit more about everything than anybody else. Education does not cause intelligence, it simply enhances it. If you're an idiot when you start college, you'll probably still be an idiot when you graduate.

Originally Posted by lin

Who do you have to be to say something sucks? Who are YOU to say so?
You're just digging youself deeper and deeper into a pit of shit, here kid.
What pile of shit, is this, exactly? Are you going to "punish" me or something?
And for what?

You're already insulted everybody here, shown that you are a bitchy little critic who knows nothing about writing and little about publishing and that you have no respect.
Have you actually read anything I wrote?
You can try to blame this on me if it makes it feel better, but you dug your own grave here. And had SEVERAL opportunities to turn it around. I gave you about three tips at the start, which you ignored because you just wanted so sound off and justify yourself and rant.

Uh-huh. Look, you know, and I know, that your published "works" are just stupid. I guess according to your criteria, I would be qualified to say your attitude "sucks". You're a joke, except you're not very funny. Good-bye.

I hope this means you aren't going to be ranting here any longer. You are one tiresome little shit.

Originally Posted by lin

I hope this means you aren't going to be ranting here any longer. You are one tiresome little shit.

Actually I was kind of hoping you would be leaving, or falling off of a cliff or something.

I'll address everything that is wrong with your cover page tomorrow (Yesterday) when I have some free time. (A LOT is wrong with your cover page, so expect a detailed critique) (So where is it?) However I warn you, be prepared for me to bring your integrity into question. (Speaking of integrity!) [/quote]

Oh, dear! What happened to our dear fantasygirl?

Originally Posted by wayn007

I'll address everything that is wrong with your cover page tomorrow (Yesterday) when I have some free time. (A LOT is wrong with your cover page, so expect a detailed critique) (So where is it?) However I warn you, be prepared for me to bring your integrity into question. (Speaking of integrity!)

Oh, dear! What happened to our dear fantasygirl?[/quote]
You might as well drop it, and move on. Obviously you're not being well received here so why stay, and receive more criticism?

Originally Posted by wayn007

BTW, if you have constructive advice to offer, I am professional enough to accept it, but if your only purpose to this critique is to tear apart the publication, don't even bother. You seem to be the type of person who gets a few years of college under her belt, and automatically assumes she knows a bit more about everything than anybody else. Education does not cause intelligence, it simply enhances it. If you're an idiot when you start college, you'll probably still be an idiot when you graduate.

Reason I haven't provided you with my critique is because you stated right there that if it's merely to tear you apart, don't bother. Well sorry to say that is the only reason I would do it, as I and the community at large know that you can't handle criticism.

I think your last sentence applies to you in theory, as you haven't gone and/or graduated from college, so you haven't had the chance to fulfill your statements meaning.

Wayne all you've proven to me and the rest of the community is that you have an unfounded belief that you even have the ability to be a publisher or a writer. You also have a loose temper and in general are a very unintelligent person. No one here has complimented you in any way and have only suggested for you to go to school to learn how to write and/or just leave.

Originally Posted by wayn007

I must have a hell of a big family then; I have several thousand very loyal readers.

Tell me though, how you can tell from looking at an image of the front page, that a publication is "amateurish and unsellable?"
Are you in the publishing business? What are your credentials?

Yes, luckily for you the Amish community is tight-knit. They also tend to live rather cloistered and don't compare to the outside world as the partipants on this forum do.

I am a graphic artist and have worked in the print industry since before you were born. Neither of these credentials, however, were employed to recognize the amateurish 'quality' of your little newsletter. Don't think the general buying public will go beyond the first page if it doesn't appeal to them either. People do judge a book by its cover.

And while this may not be the publication you are soliciting work for, it is what you provided as evidence of your work, therefore representative of what one may expect. A mockup of the proposed publication, with filler text inserted, might be more convincing, if it's better than this. If a website hasn't been a priority, surely the layout of the magazine has?

if you have constructive advice to offer, I am professional enough to accept it,

Oh, yeah. You paint a picture of detached, calm professionalism here that is awesome to behold.

You might as well drop it, and move on. Obviously you're not being well received here so why stay, and receive more criticism?[/quote]

This is true, and exactly what I plan to do. I had originally thought this was site for writers an publishers to gather, compare notes, help each other out and all that, but so far, with the exception of a few, I have found nothing but a huge circle of pretenders writing sub-par material, and telling each other how great they are. There are far more hospitable enviroments or writers and publishers, and I would encourage any new members to seek them out, and frequent them. This one seems to be aimed at helping only a select few. I have been on a lot of different forums, and have never before seen the acid hate, barbed criticism, and just all around ill-tempered people, as I have had the displeasure of meeting on this site.

Wayne all you've proven to me and the rest of the community is that you have an unfounded belief that you even have the ability to be a publisher or a writer. You also have a loose temper and in general are a very unintelligent person. No one here has complimented you in any way and have only suggested for you to go to school to learn how to write and/or just leave.[/quote]

Have you actually even read anything I've written? Normally constructive criticism is given to help a person, but as anybody with half a brain (sorry that excludes you!) could see by reading this forum thread, you have no interest in that. You have somehow built up a hate towards me, and I don't think there is anything I could write, post, or design that would make you like me any better. I certainly feel sorry for your patients, if indeed you are a nurse as you say, because you obviously have no bedside manner whatsoever. I imagine dying under your care would be a welcome relief.

Alright, that's quite enough. As a general announcement, threads in which the posters insult each other will be closed.

In the future, don't let it get to that.