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04-21-2008, 10:37 AM
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I'm just waiting for your new book, "How To Make Friends and Attract Writers"
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04-21-2008, 10:39 AM
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Wordsmith
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So tell me, are you still sleeping with Lin?
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DAMN, Fantasygirl, you promised you wouldn't tell anybody.
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04-21-2008, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by lin
I'm just waiting for your new book, "How To Make Friends and Attract Writers"
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How about yours, "How To Get Your Name On A Book Without Really Trying"
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04-21-2008, 11:10 AM
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LOL Keep digging yourself in, kid.
My four books on Mexican Slang are the best-sellers in their (rather narrow) field, dominate that market.
The one advertised on my post is, since it didn't occur to you during your pissy little rant, a self-owned business with ups and downs and marketing/promo challenges and all that shit. (Mostly stuff I learned over years in which I owned six different publications, had a line of books, consulted to the direct mail businesses, directed three different companies enterprises for other people, and that whole writing thing. None of it as clean, pure capitalism as selling drugs and firearms, but still businesses.)
Now, you tell us... have you been getting a lot of submissions from this series of posts in which you trash the writing of people whose stuff you haven't read and call the people you want stories from "idiots"?
Just wondering.
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04-21-2008, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by lin
LOL Keep digging yourself in, kid.
My four books on Mexican Slang are the best-sellers in their (rather narrow) field, dominate that market.
The one advertised on my post is, since it didn't occur to you during your pissy little rant, a self-owned business with ups and downs and marketing/promo challenges and all that shit. (Mostly stuff I learned over years in which I owned six different publications, had a line of books, consulted to the direct mail businesses, directed three different companies enterprises for other people, and that whole writing thing. None of it as clean, pure capitalism as selling drugs and firearms, but still businesses.)
Now, you tell us... have you been getting a lot of submissions from this series of posts in which you trash the writing of people whose stuff you haven't read and call the people you want stories from "idiots"?
Just wondering.
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Matter of fact, I have received quite a few submissions, although not from this forum, thanks to the efforts of you and a few other narrow-minded self-proclaimed critics.
Since you own your own business, and publish your own "writing", why are you so eager to condemn me? At least I'm giving other writers a chance to get published at the same time.
I think you just get your kicks out of being a part of a fracas.
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04-22-2008, 12:04 PM
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If all I did was read the call for submissions and view the example page, I would go no further. wayn007, you will find most people make decisions for themselves.
Your intentions appear honest and sincere. The quality of the sample provided, however, speaks volumes. It is amaturish and unsellable to all but friends and family. This is not representative of an effort that will turn a profit for the writers, or even, from all appearances, the publisher. Design skills are required to pull in potential readers if they are ever to get as far as the words, no matter how great the quality of the writing.
I wish you luck with your endeavour, but you have a long a way to go in attracting readers and writers. Keep trying; learn to weed out and accept positive criticism and discard the rest.
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04-22-2008, 03:21 PM
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It is amaturish and unsellable to all but friends and family. Quote
I must have a hell of a big family then; I have several thousand very loyal readers.
Tell me though, how you can tell from looking at an image of the front page, that a publication is "amateurish and unsellable?"
Are you in the publishing business? What are your credentials?
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04-22-2008, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wayn007
I must have a hell of a big family then; I have several thousand very loyal readers.
Tell me though, how you can tell from looking at an image of the front page, that a publication is "amateurish and unsellable?"
Are you in the publishing business? What are your credentials?
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You have several thousand readers of your publication? (meaning at least three thousand)
I implore you to post previous issues of your publication.
However, I don't think you will post previous issues and I certainly don't think you will post more pages of the current issue.
I actually think you are full of BS, full of yourself, and living in a fantasy created by your own ego.
Your publication is of such a deplorable quality that it's a joke and no writers on this forum or elsewhere are going to be interested in submitting stories to you.
Unless you start posting far more pages from you publication and/or back issues to show that you actually have a publication that warrants your fictional reader base, then I think this thread should be locked and you should leave why you still have a drop of dignity left. (if any at all is left at this point)
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04-23-2008, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Fantasygirl
You have several thousand readers of your publication? (meaning at least three thousand)
I implore you to post previous issues of your publication.
You implore? Why exactly do you "implore"? Why do you even care, unless you would just like to mock them.
However, I don't think you will post previous issues and I certainly don't think you will post more pages of the current issue.
You're probably right. Why should I? You won't be subscribing to it, you won't be advertising in it, and I can tell you right now you won't ever be writing in it. (probably mainly cause you're not even a writer) If somebody that is actually interested asks for it, I will provide whatever I need to provide to prove that I am on the level, but with you, I could probably provide all the documentation in the world, and you would still not believe me. So tell me again, why I should prove anything to you?
I provided what was originally asked of me, and that's still not enough for you. You have seven posts (most of them on my forum thread) and yet you have the authority to order me what I have to post? Wow, talk about delusions of grandeur.
I actually think you are full of BS, full of yourself, and living in a fantasy created by your own ego.
Why must you keep describing yourself when you talk about me?
Your publication is of such a deplorable quality that it's a joke and no writers on this forum or elsewhere are going to be interested in submitting stories to you.
You keep talking about how "deplorable" the quality of my publication is. What exactly is wrong with it, O Great Critic? If you're talking about the print quality, remember, I had to convert a pdf to a jpg, and then post it, so it lost some quality. Otherwise, exactly what's wrong with it?
Unless you start posting far more pages from you publication and/or back issues to show that you actually have a publication that warrants your fictional reader base, then I think this thread should be locked and you should leave why you still have a drop of dignity left. (if any at all is left at this point)
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So far you have told me how bad I am without knowing me, how bad my publication is, without being specific, and without showing your own qualifications, and just generally made a hyper-critical bitch of yourself while flashing the panties of your ignorance.
So, I demand, you either put up, or shut up. What have you ever done with your life? Have you started a business? Have you actually ever written anything, or published anything? Because if you can't prove your qualifications are better than mine, just get off the thread, and go back to whatever trendy, airheaded, botoxed, boob-jobbed sorority you crawled out of.
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04-23-2008, 12:25 PM
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Professionalism is paramount, even in the face of harsh, unasked for criticism.
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I'm here.
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04-23-2008, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by firstchapterman
John Grisham was rejected 14 times for his first novel, and he makes millions.
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Stephen King sent his first book to over 100 different publishers before he was finally accepted.
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04-23-2008, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by valeca
Professionalism is paramount, even in the face of harsh, unasked for criticism.
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I agree. I normally conduct myself with the utmost professionalism, and I have allowed myself to be baited into stooping to the level of the amateurs who have nothing better to do than tear down somebody's reputation. I apologize for responding to the ill-informed and uneducated jabs of some of the rabble that inhabits every web forum. I will attempt, in the future to ignore, or at least respond in more professional manner to these people. Thank-you, Valeca, for that reminder.
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04-23-2008, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wayn007
I agree. I normally conduct myself with the utmost professionalism, and I have allowed myself to be baited into stooping to the level of the amateurs who have nothing better to do than tear down somebody's reputation. I apologize for responding to the ill-informed and uneducated jabs of some of the rabble that inhabits every web forum. I will attempt, in the future to ignore, or at least respond in more professional manner to these people. Thank-you, Valeca, for that reminder.
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That's the second time you've stated that you normally don't conduct yourself in the way that you have in this thread. Not a single person in here has said that your publication is of a respectable quality.
I want you to post more images of your publication, because you state that you have a few thousand people reading it and I have to believe past issues are of a higher quality than that cover page that you posted. Again I think it's BS and you don't have anywhere close to thousands of readers.
I'll address everything that is wrong with your cover page tomorrow when I have some free time. (A LOT is wrong with your cover page, so expect a detailed critique) However I warn you, be prepared for me to bring your integrity into question.
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04-23-2008, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Fantasygirl
That's the second time you've stated that you normally don't conduct yourself in the way that you have in this thread. Not a single person in here has said that your publication is of a respectable quality.
I want you to post more images of your publication, because you state that you have a few thousand people reading it and I have to believe past issues are of a higher quality than that cover page that you posted. Again I think it's BS and you don't have anywhere close to thousands of readers.
I'll address everything that is wrong with your cover page tomorrow when I have some free time. (A LOT is wrong with your cover page, so expect a detailed critique) However I warn you, be prepared for me to bring your integrity into question.
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You still haven't told me exactly what makes you an expert on the subject, and since you seem to know exactly what all is wrong with my publication (which by the way, isn't even the one in question on this forum, that one hasn't been published yet) why would it take you so much time to tell me what's wrong with it?
I bring your integrity into question as well. You still haven't told me what qualifications you have; I have been publishing the Exchange-Bulletin since I was 19 years old, it has become a fixture in the area, with, yes, thousands of local readers who pick it up at local stores, plus subscribers as far away as Arizona and Idaho ( I am in Indiana, BTW)
What are your accomplishments?
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04-23-2008, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wayn007
You still haven't told me exactly what makes you an expert on the subject, and since you seem to know exactly what all is wrong with my publication (which by the way, isn't even the one in question on this forum, that one hasn't been published yet) why would it take you so much time to tell me what's wrong with it?
I bring your integrity into question as well. You still haven't told me what qualifications you have; I have been publishing the Exchange-Bulletin since I was 19 years old, it has become a fixture in the area, with, yes, thousands of local readers who pick it up at local stores, plus subscribers as far away as Arizona and Idaho ( I am in Indiana, BTW)
What are your accomplishments?
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That publication, as I said, would barely pass as acceptable for a Middle School newspaper. I hold a BSN (RN) and have been through my fair share of English courses. As I said I don't have time right now to detail everything, but you will get a detailed critique tomorrow.
In the mean time, post up some images of past issues.
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