wayn007

I'm not sure if I can send a PDF to a PM account on here, but if you will tell me how, I will try. If not, shoot me an e-mail, and I will send it to you, or if you want to get the "real" thing send me your postal address, and I'll gladly send you a hard copy free of charge. Thanks!

Foxee

I don't particularly like to give my email out and not sure myself how to send a PDF via the PM system. Perhaps it would work as an image, not sure. Give it a shot and see if it works.

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firstchapterman

Sorry for the offense, wayne, but you have to agree there are lot of scams out there. There's also stories of people having their manuscripts being stolen but if you are legit, my sincere apologies. Also after reading articles in this website,Writer Beware, I begin to question.
Good luck with your company

lin

It just doesn't inspire confidence for somebody to ask people so send an email and their work to somebody who says they have a publishing company, but won't divulge what or where it is.

"Publishing" and "secrecy" and inimical terms. Nobody is going to take you seriously like this and if YOU are concerned about privacy and protection, how about writers who might just get the feeling they are sending their work of to some anonymous black hole where it could be used for any purpose.

Only the most desperate and clueless are going to respond to anything this blind.

If you have a publishing company, let people see it and maybe you'll get some submissions.


PS I'm automatically suspicious of any publication that says its purpose is to help writers, rather than serve readers and do business.

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wayn007

Once again, I said one of the purposes of the publication is to help writers. That fact that it is a business venture (and therefore, to make money) should be understood by all but the most obtuse individuals.
I understand the need for privacy online, and I understand people's paranoia about scams. There are alot of them online. However, was I asking for ss numbers, credit card numbers, or for that matter any personal information? I was not. I was simply making people aware of what I was doing, and offering more information via e-mail. Nobody was being coerced to respond, or being offered any money. If you think it's a scam, than by all means, don't respond to it, But "warning" other people that it is a scam without checking it out further is just a knee-jerk reaction. I don't need this forum. I have posted this opportunity on several real writers forums, and have already gotten a good response. But then, I suppose you won't believe that either will you?

Fantasygirl

If you've posted to "real" writers forums, then why did you even decide to post to one that you don't consider "real"? If I was a publisher I sure as hell would rather keep to what I considered to be forums that contain actual writers.

These other "real" writers forums must be filled with overly trusting people, who would love to get in on your publishing company.

Whether you have a start up attempt of a publishing company or not, means little to me. However with you being extremely vague about the details of any such venture in a public manner, (ex. information given without the need to e-mail you) makes me think that this is a business venture where you are the one looking to profit the most at the expense of others.

Prove me wrong, post information regarding exactly what your business goals are, scans of your publication, your location, and what other writers have gotten from your publication.

You may use imageshack.us to upload images or go to a site like rapidshare.com in order to post a PDF file.

If you choose to decline providing any of this information, then you may leave and the rest of the "fake" writers will manage in some way.

Edit:
This forum software allows you to attach a variety of file formats, including PDF and image files. You have to click on the "Go Advanced" button in order to do so.

By the way what is the registered name of your company?

Fantasygirl

Wayne seems to write short stories himself (storymash.com/u/wayn007/), which makes me question how recent this "publishing" company got started. I doubt the company is even registered as a business in the state of Indiana, where Wayne currently resides.

This is what I found posted on an writing jobs website: (the only other place I could find that Wayne posted anything related to his company)

"Swisspress is looking for talented, hungry writers to write short action/adventure stories for a new publication tentatively titled Danger Digest which we are launching. We are not able to pay for stories that appear in our premier issue, but hopefully we will be able to pay in later issues. The target audience is approx. age 15 and up. For guidelines, e-mail Wayne Schwartz age 25 at:"
source: online-writing-jobs.com/jobbank/job13091 .htm

I highly doubt that Wayne registered "SwissPress" as a business name in his state or any state, as the name has already been registered nationally by
swisspress .tv

This whole situation just screams of one man wanting to get his business off the ground on the backs of others, with the eventual thought that these writers might receive compensation. It also seems like he got interested in writing and decided to try and start up a business with obvious illusions of grandeur.

firstchapterman

wow fantasy girl, it seems you know you're stuff but may i ask, how did you get all that info?

lin

I don't know if that is an expression of sneakiness or just ignorance.
What does an email tell anybody. You are trying to get people to SEND YOU THEIR EMAIL ADDRESSES without offering any reason why they should to so.

I'm starting to be a little suspicious of you by this point.



No, you AREN'T letting people see it, you muffin. That's the whole point of the response you're getting here. It's like show me yours and maybe you'll see mine.

If you think putting a blind email in a post shows anything or is less than secretive you're just plain stupid.
If you're not stupid, I'd have serious questions about what you're up to.

Not that all that much give a shit, you understand. Why would I? There's nothing to see here.

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lin

Actually, he doesn't really have to be registered with anybody, and certainly not in any given state, by the way.

Lots of these things are sole proprietorships, or run off the side of an existing business.

And the fact that there is a website with the name means nothing so far as the existance of a business itself.

But I think he's either up to something or a nitwit. Which is worse?


Okay, I just re-read this:
He isn't asking for your email, just for you to send him an email so he can send you something.

I think I'm leaning toward the nitwit interpretation by now. A scamster would be slicker than that.

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JMStone

I don't mean to offend you, however I can't appologize if this does -shrug-

As an aspiring writer, I was initially suspicious of your first post on the thread. However at first you seemed to defend yourself in an almost-professional manner.

That went right down the toilet with your response above. Someone who wants to begin a business should remain professional at all times, no? What author looking to get published, such as myself, would be interested in someone who holds themselves so far above the people they seek to get work from? Instead of lashing out at the people who argued with you, you should have stopped making excuses and posted your work.

Also, even if you are a print publication, you should have a website. This is 2008 after all and most professional businesses have web representation. You can make website very easily and for free. Having a website offers you the chance to show people what you do and also makes you look more professional.

You need help looking professional because your personality is seriously lacking.

-Jen

P.S.: Using a red font type is also a bad way to get people to side with you. Everything always looks worse in red. =)

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our website;
www.jmstone.weebly.com -
where you can read about the two authors behind the JM!

naff28

I know I'm new here, and don't really fully comprehend every aspect that goes into getting something published. I do however know how to relate different things and where I work at before we will trust a buyer we ask for credit references. Maybe this has been asked already, if so I did not see it and do apologize. But I'm just curious do you have any body that can vouch for you Wayne? You know happy people that have already been paid by your company, and are still satisfied with you and your company after the fact? I know I myself will not be the guinea pig, nor will many others in here atleast until some form of proof can be established other than email addresses (I have created as many as 15 in a day) or PDF files (which are one of the easiest things to reproduce in todays computer age)
Don't underestimate my attempts to be intrusive; I just dislike people that can not be trusted, and unfortunately in today's society this disease of human life form must be exposed for what it really is. You may be legit I really do not know.

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Go ahead, speak you mind..you only have one, and one life to live to boot.

lin

I would strongly suggest not to send your email to people on the internet who ask for it.

This is a principle commonly known as COMMON SENSE.

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wayn007

Well, is everybody finished? I'm sorry it took me so long to reply, but my computer was having so problems, and I had to take it in to get it fixed.
First of all, to everybody who needed proof, I have posted the image of my front page on photobucket. Unfortunately, I can't post the link because I don't have ten postings yet, but do a search on either "Adams County" or "wayn007".
I apologize for "lashing out" as JMStone termed it. I get a bit upset when somebody questions my integrity. I try to conduct myself with professionalism at all times, but when someone insinuates that I am not an honest writer or an honest person it is upsetting. So far there have been only about three posters on this forum who have conducted themselves with any semblance of professionalism. The rest unfortunately have just written me off as a hack with, I believe the phrase was "Delusions of grandeur" without bothering to ask anymore questions.
I apologize for insinuating that this was not a real writer's forum. It was a bad choice of words, and ill-timed.
I am willing to provide more images on photobucket if requested, and I am in the process of getting a website up and running, but as I mentioned before, we really did not need one until this point.
In response to fantasygirl's post, I made no secret of the fact that I, myself do some writing. Is that a crime in your state? And the job posting you "discovered" was almost identical to what I had posted on here to begin with, so what was your point, again?
I encourage anybody who is interested to read the partial story I have posted on storymash.com. Just do a search on my screen name, wayn007, and read "The Pandora Project". And while you're at it please rate it! I need all the stars I can get.

Foxee

The answer to the 10 posts thing is easy! Get into the forums a bit, allow us to get to know you a little, and that will build a little trust, too.

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