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cacafire · 10-19-2006, 11:40 AM

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What's the use of a god if he's not your slave?

*confused*

cacafire · 10-19-2006, 11:40 AM

oh, right, sorry. I mean God.

thamior · 10-19-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cacafire

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What's the use of a god if he's not your slave?

*confused*

hahaha, if it worked that way I'd have won the lottery a hundred times over, have a bright shiny car, and no need for college because I would be brilliant at anything I touched.

As for the capitalization, alot of people will refuse to because they don't believe. Its not a matter of belief, God has become the name of the Christian (and Jewish and Muslim) god. I'm not aiming that at you, its just a general trend I've noticed, and it disturbs me.

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sorry for hijacking the thread temporarily...now back to the subject at hand...

Foxee · 10-19-2006, 12:48 PM

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I would like to say I'm not looking, I tried to say that...but my eyes still wander...

Ok, between this and what Hodge thought I meant, here's a clarification.

I didn't say for you guys to stop looking. I just wanted you to be aware that there might be girls right in front of you who don't seem to be 'looking' who wouldn't mind talking to you. And talking can lead to more good stuff. I think it was Candie who made a similar point before the thread filled up and buried her post.

thamior · 10-19-2006, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxee

Ok, between this and what Hodge thought I meant, here's a clarification.

I didn't say for you guys to stop looking. I just wanted you to be aware that there might be girls right in front of you who don't seem to be 'looking' who wouldn't mind talking to you. And talking can lead to more good stuff. I think it was Candie who made a similar point before the thread filled up and buried her post.

I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying, I've been hurt in ways that make me tenative to even get back into it. But I still find that I look, but what makes that harder is that no girl wants to be found by me, so looking hurts too.

Hodge · 10-19-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fantasy of You

Lol. If you reply with a come back like Hodge suggested, you'll find it even harder to get a girl. Just be yourself. Confidence will come when you accept who you are, which is so much harder to do when people are taking the piss of how you are. It'll come eventually, just stick with it....

Only the stupid cheerleader whose only ambition in life is to have fun and be popular and contribute absolutely nothing worthwhile to the world except a pair of nice tits that won't even last much past the age of thirty.

And you don't want a cheerleader, anyway. Utterly useless creatures.

Women like men who stand up for themselves (and men SHOULD like women who do, but that whole patriarchy thing...). It also helps to be clever and intelligent. Some people like ruthlessness as well.

thamior · 10-19-2006, 03:18 PM

yes, well you can also stand up for yourself in otherways. While I do think your advice is good, as I said, I'm not the fuck you type. I dont enjoy returning insults, however clever they may be...I'd rather tell them off in a way that shows them they should shut up, but doesnt make me out to be rude.

Hodge · 10-19-2006, 03:24 PM

Maybe the problem is that you can never just get the gist of things, but instead take them totally literal and go on and on about the specifics.

thamior · 10-19-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hodge

Maybe the problem is that you can never just get the gist of things, but instead take them totally literal and go on and on about the specifics.

hahaha, I get the gist of it, but even the gist of it was to say something sort of offensive to counter them, which is not something I enjoy doing.

Hodge · 10-19-2006, 03:29 PM

You obviously missed the gist of it if you think being a dick was my point.

thamior · 10-19-2006, 03:35 PM

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Or you can just ignore them. But that's no fun.

Obviously you intend that one would use some unpleasant retort...and it doesnt make you a dick, its just not what I would do. Plenty of people would come back with some mild remark, its socially acceptable, but its not me. I'd prefer to ignore them, or say something that puts a little hole in what they said and forces them to be quiet.

Hodge · 10-19-2006, 03:40 PM

Thank you for illustrating my point.

If you ignore what they say or poke a "hole" in it, it just shows you're not willing to be more than passive-aggressive, which makes you an easy target.

If you don't assert yourself you'll be angsty forever.

thamior · 10-19-2006, 03:49 PM

yes, but asserting does not mean I have to remark upon what they're saying. I can ignore the comment and tell them off. Of course thats also alot harder than it sounds for me.

cacafire · 10-19-2006, 05:19 PM

Thamior, I think your afraid of standing up for yourself because your afraid of what to do next, or you're afraid that you can't keep it up because it's a facade. If you really want to get specific, you find that it's easier to remain passive and non-aggressive, because you get everybody's sympathy.

It's easy to be a victim. Everybody coos at you and pats you on the back, and you get the luxury of thinking that you really are just a nice guy and everybody else won't leave you alone.

But I'm getting tired of your whining. You've countered everyones supporting posts with "I'm not comfortable doing that", or "No girl wants to be near me(never mind the fact that that statement is absurd)". Frankly, it seems to me that you don't really want to get the girl, you want to sit there and make excuses.

Well, you do that. But I'm getting tired of your whining.

-Cacafire

:edit: This is tough love.

shadowseer · 10-19-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Zombie

I've always been the 'nice guy' around my friends. I'm the type that has many more female friends than male because deep down I'm kind hearted, I don't like seeing anyone in any kind of pain, and I try to help and cheer people up when I get the chance. However, this is also the problem.

See, because I'm the nice guy, I seem to get passed over easily when it comes to women. My feminine friends feel they can trust me and talk to me. However, twice I've tried to approach good friends and I lost my friendship with them. Granted, that was a couple years ago, but it affects me to this day. It's like I have "just friends" syndrome.

Why the hell do girls go for the assholes? It always bothered me. I had one close friend in high school who had the hots for this complete douche of a guy. I told her I didn't think he was worth going after but she said she felt it was right. Yeah, I also held her when she cried after breaking up with him two weeks later (yep, hook up and break up in two weeks time).

Most of this I can answer myself, but I'm really just expelling some general anger and frustration with life at the moment. It just drives me nuts.

Other than this general angst, my week has been decent. Lots of schoolwork though.

i have the same problem. Lots of friends who are girls, but none would seriously consider dating me. The one who did ended up breaking up with me, but luckily we're still friends.