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Old 06-23-2008, 01:18 AM   #1
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Is it possible? How would you go about achieving it?
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Nuclear war, followed by the Marburg Virus, variant U.
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I don't think it is possible. Too many people, too many emotions.
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Is it possible? How would you go about achieving it?
The Backward OX both of those are great questions and through out various points in human history others have asked those questions while collecting answers of all sorts. If someone came up with a way to achieve world peace that person will likely be found utterly insane, as it is my opinion that only a truely insane idea could work. Before answering either question, we must at least for a moment consider the ramifications that world peace would have on the world. At its most basic level a world in which humans live in peace with each other would not be recognizable if someone from the world of today took a trip there.

Below is a list of a few major things that would not exist in a world of peace

Religion
Countries
Any form of government that exists today
currency

Here are a few things that would exist

UHCS (universal health care system)
UEN (universal education network)

Now I can answer the two questions.

Yes I believe that world wide peace is possible

I would take the first steps toward achieving world peace by creating a universal health care system and a universal education network. As luck would have it, I am already drafting both of those systems. The reality is that both systems help each other and as such are in some respects are connected. Even in the early stages of the draft right now, I realize that both systems must be phased in together.

Since the universal education network is much more controversial than a universal health care system, I will focus on it more.

This is the only warning that I will give, what I am about to outline is going to disturb and shock many people. This education system is so different from anything that exists today that the ripple effect it would have on soceity once completely phased in, would change the world to a degree where most people from the world before it would not understand the new world.

Many people who have had children admit that becoming a parent changed their life. Not all of these changes are good, some of the younger parents have to put their dreams on hold in order to raise a child, other parents find they have to work more jobs to bring in extra money to pay for everything a child needs. Not everyone turns out to be a good parent and some people choose to give their child up for adoption. The age of parents adoptive parents rasing a child till adulthood would be over under the new education network.

Three options would exist for those who choose to bring children into the world.

A. At birth if the mother of a child feels that she would not be able to provide for that child well enough she may sign the legal guardianship of that child over to care providers within the healthcare system and eduaction network. (If the father believes he can care for the child on his own, the child would go with its father.)

B. If at any point a father or mother decides that they can no longer care for a child after birth but before the child's sixth birthday they may sign the legal guardianship of that child over to care providers within the healthcare system and eduaction network. (If either the mother or father believes that they can care for the child on their own, the child would remain with that parent.)

C. No matter what all parents would have to sign over the legal guardianship of their children to the education network within the month of a child's sixth birthday. So that one month after that birthday the child can enter into the education network while getting the best medical care from the healthcare system. Any parent trying to hide their child would be denying that child a comprehensive education that all children around the world would be able to get. Those children would be found and taken from their parents as a speical law would allow the legal custody of such children to be automatically transferred to the education network care providers.

Without having to worry about rasing a child any parent could focus on their relationship with their friends and partners or wife/husband. In addtion these adults could follow their dreams by completing their education or simply taking the steps needed seek work in the profession they wish to.

Before explaining what happens as a result of a children entering the education network, I feel that I must explain a few basics about the education network. The education network is a connected system of education facilities.

some basic features of each facility:

Housing for at least 5000 students

A medical wing with necessary equipment to handle almost any problem or need of a student and/or staff member, including most major operations

Housing for medical staff based on an appropriate ratio of so many doctors/nurses per a certain number of students

Appropriate space for any other equipment needed to teach any class offered at that facility, including extra space for labs which students can access while not in classes

Housing for mentor and tutor staff, younger students are to have 24 hour supervision

A dinning wing which also serves as a lab for culinary students

Indoor and outdoor teaching areas, depending on the subject some may be taught better outdoors or indoors

Swimming pools, various sports fields and courts, a gym

Disaster shelters

Within reasonable distance of a large hospital incase a student or staff member cannot be cared for within the facility grounds. Air transport or driven transport well take anyone needing care to the hospital

Housing for visiting staff and students from other regions of the world

Teacher and local administration housing

Every month a new group of students enters the eudcation network. Once in the network they do not go home for any breaks or vacations. There are two stages of education within the network, primary and secondary or extended education. Primary eduaction begins one month after the sixth birthday and ends one month after the eighteenth birthday. Secondary or extended education follows that if a student wishes to further their education. Secondary education allows a student to study subjects on a much deeper level just like colleges to today. Of course secondary education or even primary education don't cost the student anything so they really don't have anything to lose by furthing their education. Since smaller groups of students enter the network each month, this cuts down on class sizes are creates a better teacher to student ratio.

There are certain subjects that students will study and may choose to study that would require them to travel another part of the world in order to study it comprehensively. Depending on the subject and the region or regions of the world where a student would need to travel in order to study it, not all of these subjects could be studied year around. As such some subjects would only be taught on a seasonable basis based on the region of the world where they are being taught. If a group of non local students is ready to study the history of rome for instance they along with their history teacher will travel to rome in order to study it better while giving students a hands on experince with history. While studying in a non local region of the world these students would stay at a local education network facility while having access to other local subjects that they may choose to study while there as a bouns.

All subjects of study that students will cover or may choose to cover fall under the following core catagories.

Bonding
(This covers everything from teaching students how to get along with one another up to companionship and love)

Creativity
(everything from coming up with new ideas to becoming a master of one or more of the many forms of art humanity has come up with)

Health
(Health education connects the education system with the medical system and through health education students learn about themselves and each other in both class room discussions as well as hands on experience through participation in regluar medical check ups plus various sessions with doctors/nurses to further answer any questions/concerns. Between what students cover through bonding and health education they will get an extremely comprehensive sex education)

History
(Simple as that teaching students history as we know it to be true, since religions are a major part of human history they well be looked at from a historical point of view)

Language
(Students learn how to master their native language and at least 2 others over the course of their primary education, all students will english as well.)

Math (Basically students cover all forms of math, not all mathmatical subjects well be required for students to take but they may take them if they wish)

Science (Same deal as with math all the most common forms of science will be taught but not every science subejct well be required, however students wishing to study an area of sciecne on a deeper level can do so)

Survival

though portions of the world are highly civilized with humans, outside of these regions not many people may know how to survive in the wild

As an introduction to survival training students well learn the basic needs for a person to survive on their own

Through a series of preparation field tests students well learn to spot and become aware of various environments in order to survive in them

After much discussion and field test days students along with their survival expert instructors shall venture off into the wild for 2 weeks in order to fully test their abilities in the wild

Over the course of a year students and their survival instructor will venture into various wild regions many times in order for students to be able to test their skills two weeks at a time

Month long survival tests shall give students an even more complete test of their ability to survive away from civilization

Finally as part of extended education groups of students can choose survival trainings where they go into the wild for up to six months at a time

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There are many aspects of the education network and healthcare system that need to be refined before I can begin to answer or even ask questions about them. It is however the only plan which if phased in could change the world peacefully.
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Old 06-23-2008, 05:16 AM   #6
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I'm fairly cynical about the reality of world peace, but you never know. It all comes down to economics. When our world economies are no longer reliant on oil, then maybe the wealth distribution will balance out a little better. That would be the first major advancement towards the final goal.
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Is world peace desirable? We would need to rid the world of religeon and poverty. We already have too much fossil fuels being burned for us. Do we really want to ruin our planet for sake of world peace? Do we really want everyone in India and China to drive and get fat and drink a lot of freshwater?
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Anybody who knows of and even follows the TAO would know that world peace, whilst something to strive for will never happen.

THE TAO -an extremly brief summary (those who are unfamiliar). You may ask what this is so to answer take a look at the Yin Yang symbol. That is the two fishes one white (with a black eye) and the other black (with a white eye) in a continuous circle. They represent opposites (not good or bad just opposites) fighting to defeat the other but never succeeding WHY? because at the heart of one there is a small element of the other so there can be no victory. Any peace as such is fleeting, of the moment. If you look back on events since the end of WWII has there truly been any peace in our time? No, take conflicts in Africa, Middle East, Asia (China, Korea, Vietnam etc) for example, some of which are still ongoing or taken different form.

Conflict whether it is violent or idealogical has been a part of humanity from day one - you will always have opposing views on religion, wealth, freedom, and prosperity etc. It is neither right to always have conflict nor is it wrong. It simply is.

Will we have world peace? No. Should we strive for it? absolutely because it is the struggle (The conflict between opposites) to attain it that keeps things ticking over. The only way it could happend is if the entire human race is in 100% agreement to world peace and how best to achieve it. However since we are all human, some of us will oppose it, even go to war over it or steal the idea and claim it as our own.

So I am sorry but no it will not happen.
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World peace is reachable, but not in any way that any living human would agree with. The problem is that peace is the absence of conflict, but any time you have two humans (or often enough just one), there is conflict. They can't both eat the whole hypothetical pie, so there's a conflict of interest in just about everything. Also, with so many people in the world, and so many viewpoints, it's impossible to get them all to agree.

So yes, it's possible. But only when every living thing is dead.
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World peace is reachable, but not in any way that any living human would agree with. The problem is that peace is the absence of conflict, but any time you have two humans (or often enough just one), there is conflict. They can't both eat the whole hypothetical pie, so there's a conflict of interest in just about everything. Also, with so many people in the world, and so many viewpoints, it's impossible to get them all to agree.

So yes, it's possible. But only when every living thing is dead.
Zyphial - That's silence. Not peace. There is a difference.
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Superstate with superweapon!

Set the rules and wipe the first country who breaks them off the map. Make part of the rules a ban on any type of weapon research or technology. Rinse and repeat until world peace is achieved.

Take that, idealistic peaceful methods of achieving a utopian society.
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