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    Fanfiction and Why it is Not Bad (moved from suggestions)

    I am a fanfiction writer.

    While reading that earlier thread about fanfiction, I was absolutely shocked to see such an amount of negative replies, and I was more than a little bit hurt. So I decided to write this about fanfiction.

    Fanfiction writers are not plagiarisers. We (the best of us anyway) know full well that these are not our absolute very own characters we're using, and we say so right there at the top--or at the bottom in an author's note. "I do not own these characters." Very often we toss in a joke about how we don't get paid, or we say that we're just doing it for our own enjoyment so PLEASE don't sue us.

    And in fact, fanfiction writers do NOT get paid and they ARE doing it for their own enjoyment. It is very, very rare for a fanfiction author to get his or her work published in a solid book form (Star Wars, anyone? What about Buffy the Vampire Slayer and her line of fanfiction books?).

    But then, we don't want it to get published. We don't want to get agents, we don't want to go through all the hassle of editors and hate mail and fan letters with complete nonsense--we just do it because we like to.

    We write fanfiction because we have something in common. We are not islands in the fanfiction community--we are not the solitary writer in a cafe. We are basically a group of friends who gather around the table with beat up old notebooks and pens.

    We learn to handle criticism--because these are not our characters we are working with, after all, and we are held to standards based on how well we know our fandoms. We do research and ask questions about our fandoms. We get beta-readers (the equivalent of editors/critics), we spend hours hammering our fics to fit perfectly so one character will not be portrayed wrongly, and for what?

    Not for money.

    We like poking fun at people. We poke fun at a lot of things--mostly bad fanfiction, which we learn from. We don't see bad fanfiction and go, "Oh, fanfiction is terrible. It should never be allowed." We see it and say, "That's what I need to avoid."

    Often in certain fandoms there are legions of homosexual fiction, and while roughly half of it is badly written the other half says something: We tolerate homosexuality. In fact, we tolerate a lot of things. Mostly people who think that just because we are not making up our own characters we are the spawn of the devil and should never be allowed to pick up a pen.

    "I would be disgusted if someone used MY characters."

    Well, they ARE your fans. They like you enough to explore the world you made and try to take a stab at expanding it on their own. I, personally, would not mind if someone used my characters in a fanfiction. Fanfiction is an interpretation of the original, essentially a 'what if.' And if you don't allow fanfiction to be written, then fine--we won't write any.

    We are young. We are often girls, and we are often intelligent. We are, perhaps, even more sensitive to criticism than the average writer, because at least they are your own characters and you can make them do whatever you want. Fanfiction writers have very rigid boundaries and lines, and we handle other people's characters quite carefully.

    You have seen the worst of fanfiction on Godawful.net. What really made me wince was the fact that even there, even on godawful.net where the whole purpose is to make fun of bad fanfiction, there is a spot where you can find links to GOOD fanfiction, too.

    Until I meet people that are not as blatantly insensitive to a legitimate, if not acknowledged, medium, I don't suppose I will be posting here more often.

    You have seen the worst of fanfiction, and your reaction is quite understandable.

    But I have seen the best.

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    Raedyn, this still doesn't explain how one can justify considering fan fiction as writing. Creating a world and characters is part of writing, in much the same way filming is part of creating a movie. You would be shocked if someone claimed they produced a movie if all they've done is dubbed it into another language.

    So, to me, fanfiction if the dubbing of greater works.
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    all i want to know is, why is this thread in the 'suggestion box' and not in the debate section???
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    It's because raedn is suggesting that fan fiction is ok, and I'm suggesting it's scurrulous quasi-plagiarism that sucks creativity and originality out of the writing process and substitutes teen wish fulfilment.

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    Fan-fiction isn't a genre from what you have said raedyn, its a hobby, so why get upset if people don't take it seriously?
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    ...Oh, I know it isn't a REAL genre... I just hate it when people say it isn't real writing.

    Fanfiction, loosely put, is putting your own twist on something that's already been done. Robin McKinley rewrites fairy tales, and they could technically be called "fanfiction." What's ironic is that she doesn't allow fanfiction to be written about her own books :/.

    And at the risk of sounding so childish I'll embarrass myself:

    I just want people to STOP BEING SO MEAN about fanfiction! We don't want to STEAL from the authors, we just LIKE them a lot! What's wrong with liking something enough to try and put your own twist on it?! It's easy! It's fun! We don't make any money from it! We're too insecure to write our own damn books, for god's sake!

    I'm just asking people to be a little bit MORE tolerant about fanfiction, and a little LESS possessive of what amounts to ink on paper. And I thought I was a solitary writer...

    Perhaps this COULD stand moving to the debates section, since I wanted it to be a suggestion but now it's turning into something else...

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    You have to understand where others are coming from.

    Everyone who has posted here has put some serious effort into their writing, whether striving for originality orjust generally respecting their craft. Fan-fiction does not seem to do either, it certainly doesn't show much respect to either writing itself nor the people who have already put the work in themselves.
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    It's not writing. Writing is more than just putting words on paper. It's about making characters come alive that were before nonexistent. If you're not doing that then it's not goddamn literature.

    Write fan-fic if you want, but don't claim it's writing. Writing is a craft of many levels.

    We'd better define writing then, eh? I consider it a creation and art form. Fan-fic is the dadaism of writing; it is not, to me, an art form, nor is it much of a creation.
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    You lot are quite harsh aren't you!

    I feel it depends on what form of fan fic you are writing about. i do it on another forum, but it's based on a universe and not a character, so you have to create your own characters etc.

    Also, any form of fan fic will show through good writing skills, no matter what your topic is. If someone is a good writer, they do not suddenly become rubbish because they are writing fan fic.

    Yeah, this should have been posted in the debates section!!
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    Brightside, if you're making your own characters, how exactly is it fanfic?

    And I don't think fanfic makes a writer rubbish, I just don't think it qualifies as writing. They can do it all they want as long as they're aware it's no more than dadaism/dubbing.

    And, of course, as long as I don't need to read it.
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    fanfic is just taking someone elses creation and expanding so you are "stealing" other peoples ideas tecknically (i probably spelt that wrong)
    but if its what you like and what you want to do i say go for it (i just turned most people on this forum against me )


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    I'll save my comments until this topic is moved or something. We're in Debateville now.

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    Stalling for time, eh?
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    If the definition of writing depends upon the creation of an original idea, there's a huge problem because there is no such thing as an original idea. We're all influenced by what we read, what movies we've seen. Even if your story doesn't have characters named Harry Potter or Buffy Summers, you've still borrowed ideas from somewhere.

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    Indeed.
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