Thread: Teacher Goes to Prison Over 5 Students

I'm sorry, the real crime is not committed by this teacher of 33 years of age, but by the state and court system that convicted her. These boys apparently were 17 years of age according to the article. Maybe I was raised in a different era but I cast serious doubt on 17 year old boys being psychologically traumatized by having sexual encounters with an older woman.

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Jimmy Hoffa must be rolling in his grave.

Stacy Schuler, Ex-Ohio Teacher, Convicted Of Having Sex With 5 Students

"These young men may appear as if they are tough guys, but in reality, they are truly hurting," she said.

Originally Posted by Writ-with-Hand

I'm sorry, the real crime is not committed by this teacher of 33 years of age, but by the state and court system that convicted her. These boys apparently were 17 years of age according to the article. Maybe I was raised in a different era but I cast serious doubt on 17 year old boys being psychologically traumatized by having sexual encounters with an older woman.

Writ's an animal, I know.

Speak your mind. Opinions?

Jimmy Hoffa must be rolling in his grave.

Stacy Schuler, Ex-Ohio Teacher, Convicted Of Having Sex With 5 Students

First off, she wasn't convicted for having sex with 17yr olds, since the age of consent is 16; she was convicted for having sex with students, which is illegal in Ohio. As well, she provided drugs and alcohol to minors, which is also illegal. How you think the system failed by convicting her is beyond me. You may disagree with the law but, as it stands, you can't argue against the conviction being lawful.

The fact that she was in a position of power over impressionable youths, and that they deserved her protection instead of predation is key. Combine it with the inclusion of illegal substances and it's even worse. She should have got more time.

Originally Posted by Capulet

First off, she wasn't convicted for having sex with 17yr olds, since the age of consent is 16; she was convicted for having sex with students, which is illegal in Ohio.

Okay, Writ stands corrected.

As well, she provided drugs and alcohol to minors, which is also illegal. How you think the system failed by convicting her is beyond me. You may disagree with the law but, as it stands, you can't argue against the conviction being lawful.

The fact that she was in a position of power over impressionable youths, and that they deserved her protection instead of predation is key. Combine it with the inclusion of illegal substances and it's even worse. She should have got more time.

Cap, we were buying liquor and beer from corner stores and liquor stores when we* were 13. I didn't even have hair around my groin till I was about 16 or so now that I think of it. Late bloomer I guess. Anyways... point is... why do I care about some 16 and 17 year old high school football players drinking alcohol? Oh yeah, I don't.

What is particularly irksome is this father getting up on the stand all teary eyed? Jesus, Joseph, and Mary. What happened to a pat on the back?

This is a woman (not a man). These were boys (not girls). If anything I think the young men took advantage of her. They ought to pay her back for the alcohol too.

I mean... I understand being a shy and naive boy (if any were). I was one. But grab your balls. Mother of Mercy.



*"we" as in over this yonder, not implying you and I.

Gee, didn't know being vegetarian is a insanity defense. Mmmm, must find a suitable crime to commit.

Wow.

Just wow.

Your government is hellbent of emasculating your men.

It's as if the concept of having the wool pulled over your eyes is such an insult to your pride and sensibility, you can't notice how thickly covered they really are. Who here actually thinks kids don't take drugs, drink or have sex before they are at the age of concent?

Originally Posted by Writ-with-Hand

This is a woman (not a man). These were boys (not girls). If anything I think the young men took advantage of her. They ought to pay her back for the alcohol too.

So if it was a male taking advantage of 17 year old girls, that would be evil.
But as it's a female taking advantage of 17 year old boys, it's perfectly acceptable.
Ok......

Originally Posted by Rustgold

So if it was a male taking advantage of 17 year old girls, that would be evil.
But as it's a female taking advantage of 17 year old boys, it's perfectly acceptable.
Ok......

So if you plowed a good looking teacher at 17(regardless of the teacher in question), you would be morally abused... Right...

Sometimes, double standards make sense.

Originally Posted by Rustgold

So if it was a male taking advantage of 17 year old girls, that would be evil.
But as it's a female taking advantage of 17 year old boys, it's perfectly acceptable.
Ok......

What is the advantage in either case?

Same would apply to a handsome male teacher. It doesn't make sense at all to make a double standard here. It's still a fair point that if the teacher was hot I don't think they would be "OMG TRAUMA" over it, but the same thing would apply to non-virgin females because they obviously enjoy it too.

Still, the law is the law. Those horny teenagers have the right to screw you over so once you hit 18 you should be looking at 18+ boys and girls to avoid trouble.

Originally Posted by elite

Still, the law is the law. Those horny teenagers have the right to screw you over so once you hit 18 you should be looking at 18+ boys and girls to avoid trouble.

Not if you are their teacher, doctor, social worker, or similar. The law is the law - in such cases, it's an abuse of authority (position of trust), not a carnal knowledge matter.

I think some people opinions on this amount to wishful thinking. “Gee, it wouldn’t have been awesome to have sex with a hot teacher!” People who are past that know why this kind of behavior is wrong on every level.

Originally Posted by JosephB

I think some people opinions on this amount to wishful thinking. “Gee, it wouldn’t have been awesome to have sex with a hot teacher!” People who are past that kind of thinking know why this kind of behavior is wrong on every level.

I'm sorry, but being a teenager myself until just yesterday, I know that every teenager fantasizes about doing it with a hot teacher. I can understand an older teacher, which to us youngsters wouldn't be very attractive, but say, a good-looking 24 year old teacher is likely to be able to score on a student with little persuasion. I remember back when I was 12-14 there was this insanely pretty female teacher; I think she was 26. She was probably everyone's first crush and if not the second. Later on when I was 16 there was this 24 year old male teacher, all the girls went nuts for him and one actually dated him after she graduated a few months later (no one knows if they were going out while she was still a student).

Fact is that teenagers are horny, and there isn't much that can traumatize you in consensual sex. Whether male, female, teacher or student. They wanted it, they looked for it, and they enjoyed it. They should also be under detention for drinking and consuming drugs, because I'm not going to believe a single person (a woman at that) forced drinks and drugs into 5 young football players.

Look, I'm not saying she's not guilty (she is), but these guys aren't exactly innocent little boys.

As a really old Englishman, I had to smile a little when I first read the news about this story of what a pretty 33 year old did with five 17 year old boys..
I can't beleive that any of the young men were traumatised by the experience although I can believe that they will remember it for the rest of their lives.
I do wonder if there were only five young men to be chosen for initiation.

Of course the sin is that the teacher broke her code of behaviour towards her pupils. There will be no mention of teaching sex in her job specification.

The more I consider the matter, the more I smile. What did the father of any one of the lads say to his son when the truth came to be known?

The drugs issue is to me far more serious. But I get the impression that young folks these days don't wait too long to test out the effect of a pill.

There are fundamental questions in all this which remains to be addressed.
In a modern society what should be the age of consent for having sex?
and
do the present levels proscribed bear any relationship to the fitness of the youngster to participate?

What I suspect will happen is that the teacher concerned will use her time in jail to write her memoirs.
The book will become a best seller
and Los Angeles will make a film out of it - maybe even a soap.

PS (How old was Dustin when Mrs Robinson took a shine to him?)

elite -- This is about breaking a law designed to dissuade people in authority and in positions of public trust from taking advantage of people who are potentially vulnerable. The same kinds of laws and ethical standards apply to law enforcement, healthcare and social workers etc. Whether or not the teenagers wanted it or not is beside the point. And you are only assuming that there was no coercion or any attempt on this teacher's part to influence their behavior.

I was ready to come and say, "Well I'm a teacher, so from my point of view..." but then I read what she did with the five students to make herself go to prison.

And yeah, that's not... that's not cool. Among other things, that's evidence that she has completely failed them as a teacher.