Thread: Does Life Have A Beginning?

The body of every living being is a vehicle for life. Whether it is man, animal, or plant--it has a beginning and an end. But, does life have a beginning? How may anyone discover an answer to this question?

Are you implying that life exists before the body does? Is this topic about the life of an individual, or the concept of life as a whole?

Originally Posted by Gamer_2k4

Are you implying that life exists before the body does? Is this topic about the life of an individual, or the concept of life as a whole?

Everything living is a lifeless shell without the force (spirit) that breathes movement into people, animals, plants. What is the source of this life-force, which remains invisible until it finds a host?

Soul, you mean. One way to discover it, is to leave your body and know something you could not otherwise know, which is damnably hard to prove, it would seem, since without this experience, others will very likely nay say it. Not so easy though to go out of body. We are fairly attached for a reason. As you can see though, I am of the camp that acknowledges soul, ghosts, reincarnation...
Oh, but does it have a beginning? I see it more like an more or less eternal ball of string unraveled. No idea where the beginning or the end might be.

It's a self-answering question - If I don't write the sentence following this one, does it exist?

Originally Posted by Bloggsworth

It's a self-answering question - If I don't write the sentence following this one, does it exist?

Ah, but you're missing the point of the question. You're question is akin to someone asking, "If a baby is never conceived, does it have a body?" The answer is no, of course the body doesn't exist.

However, that wasn't the question. The question was if the nebulous idea of "life" has a beginning. An analogous question might be, "If I don't write what I'm thinking now, did I still think it?"

Is this a stealth question for an abortion debate?

My life began when I was born. Before that, I was not alive; I was a dependent, pre-life, developing mass of potential humanity.

Science can answer this question from a biological point of reference, but only if there is objective understanding of what life is. Science cannot at this time answer issues relating to souls.

Originally Posted by Robinjazz

Everything living is a lifeless shell without the force (spirit) that breathes movement into people, animals, plants. What is the source of this life-force, which remains invisible until it finds a host?

it seems to me that if you cannnot detect this lifeforce, or track it back to its origin, you are making a pretty big assumption that it exists at all.

Not an abortion question. Wasn't thinking about life and death as we know it.

When one speaks of a Creator, one assumes we are thinking of a God who created all. When one thinks of creation, one tends to let science determine for us how things came into being. But, behind the scenes of creation, there seems to be an invisible life-force determined to manifest itself through some type of vehicle, whether that vehicle may be human life, animal life, or plant life.

Was there ever a beginning to this life force? It had to exist the two billion years it took the planet earth to cool off. This life force must have awareness because it knew when conditions were suitable for it to find hosts.

If you study Shintoism, everything has a lifeforce, not just living things. By this, technically everything is alive, nothing truly ever dies.

Originally Posted by Robinjazz

But, behind the scenes of creation, there seems to be an invisible life-force determined to manifest itself through some type of vehicle, whether that vehicle may be human life, animal life, or plant life.

God?

Originally Posted by Robinjazz

Was there ever a beginning to this life force? It had to exist the two billion years it took the planet earth to cool off. This life force must have awareness because it knew when conditions were suitable for it to find hosts.

God?

Originally Posted by Gamer_2k4

Ah, but you're missing the point of the question. You're question is akin to someone asking, "If a baby is never conceived, does it have a body?" The answer is no, of course the body doesn't exist.

However, that wasn't the question. The question was if the nebulous idea of "life" has a beginning. An analogous question might be, "If I don't write what I'm thinking now, did I still think it?"

No it isn't - Life must have a physical entity to support it - The Forbidden Planet and The Black Cloud were not documentaries.

Surgeons can play with the brain to change the soul & essence of a person. A brain trauma can do the same. As such, all evidence points to our soul being physical in nature; because if it wasn't then it wouldn't be affected by these events.

Found this article:

How life on Earth began - Technology & science - Science - LiveScience - msnbc.com


Weird. A billion billion planets. If life exists on any, it would be structured similar to life here. This invisible life-force seems to have intelligence because it waits until conditions are suitable for it to manifest itself through forms capable of surviving in the conditions (Does it also have control over the conditions? Did millions of years of rain cool off planet earth? Was this life-force responsible for the rain? Is this life-force a step-by-step process?)

And even the reproduction system for all living creatures is practically the same. Did this life-force set up this reproduction system to sustain itself. Every living form in air, in water, on and beneath earth--in every type of environment imaginable--reproduces the same way. And, it probably would be no different if life was found on the farthest planet from earth.

Creation seems to have this intellectual, life-force driving it forward, seeking ways for it to manifest itself. Weird.

Allow me to suggest this great documentary on the life force, and how it needs our help: