Thread: "How Christianity Ruined the Western Mind" 6044 words

It is sad that some Christians have turned Christianity into a religion. It was never meant to be so. I don't want to just go through the motions, I want a personal relationship with my savior, and to live my life according to what I believe. It's a life-style, not a religion.

Originally Posted by Capulet

society is not a little boy

It sure seems like it is. Tends to be very helpless.

Originally Posted by Capulet

There are groups and organizations I have every right to continue to fear and mistrust. In fact, my health depends on it. I'm sure the KKK hasn't turned into a pinochle club in the last couple years, and the IRA isn't knitting nearly as much as they claim.

Just because you don't hold a grudge or feel afraid of them doesn't mean that you will have to trust them.

Originally Posted by Capulet

Man is wired with a fight or flight instinct. Flight is based on fear. If you advocate us living in the manner we're intended to then you have to understand reacting to fear is part of our physiological and social fabrics.

He was talking about irrational fear. Not fear of someone about to stab you.

Originally Posted by Capulet

But, if we were to fast-forward in your scenario an hour or two, or even a day if the child has had a fever. Do you think there's any chance that kiddo will have a talk with dad that didn't include something along the lines of "How many times have I told you..."

But what if were to go back to the point where the boy was still in the water? The dad would not tell him "How many..." and that is the point of the statement.

Originally Posted by Capulet

I don't love to pick a fight, and I'll prove it: you stop making statements that have no factual or logical basis, and I will stop calling you on it. Peace is at hand, but only if you choose to embrace it!

It would be easier to if your comments didn't read so personally offending which is not allowed anyway.

A mind that has no answer is like a doorway; all information is welcome for equal consideration. There is no prior bias. This is the open-mind, the mind truly capable of learning, of living.

Personally, I try to scrutinise most things that enter my mind; I lock my house on a night and don't simply allow anyone and everyone in. If I do not leave my house unguarded, why should I leave something more precious to me, my mind, unguarded? In this way, my mind is not like a doorway but more of a filter, and I would hope this is the case for most people.

Everybody is somewhat closed minded.

Originally Posted by S.M. grimbldoo

It is sad that some Christians have turned Christianity into a religion. It was never meant to be so. I don't want to just go through the motions, I want a personal relationship with my savior, and to live my life according to what I believe. It's a life-style, not a religion.

I think it's fine to describe it as both a personal relationship and a religion.

Originally Posted by Patrick

I think it's fine to describe it as both a personal relationship and a religion.

Very true, but it is more having a personal relationship and then sharing it.

Yes, "enemy" is a BAD word. We MUST BE TOLERANT!!!111~~111!

Copts massacred in Cairo despite promises of Egyptian Arab Spring - International Analyst Network
(Christian Copts massacred in Cairo Egypt, 9 October 2011)

Copts Under Attack | Power Line

For some months now, ever since the uprising that toppled Mubarak, Christians have been under attack. Churches have been burned, and Christians have been beaten and murdered.

I'm a bit short on recent articles that detail Christians taking part in similar "demonstrations" of what can only be termed "hatred" and "intolerance." Yes, religious people can be most dreary--I tend to include ALL religious people in that category, not just the ones that are most likely to live down the street from me. But if you want a quiet life free of genocide and forced conversion, give me Christianity any day.

Here's another really recent one about the massacre of Christians, though: Muslims Pelt Funeral Processions of Murdered Christians With Bricks - Atlas Shrugs

The Muslims murdered these Christians in cold blood because they were Christians, in the worst Cairo riots since Mubarak ouster. And the world talks about the glorious "Arab Spring."

President Obama warns the Christians to show restraint.

But since we're talking about Christians here: Yes, isn't it terrible how they're SO INTOLERANT?? They have totally peed in the pool and ruined it for everybody. JS Bach, Martin Luther, Goya, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Aquinas--LOSERS, the lot of them. Materialistic jerks.

(By the way, TYPO: It's "Rolls Royce.")

For an entire decade, my understanding of myself and of the world did not change, for better or for worse. \ When I reached my nineteenth year, I still had the same fundamental perspective that I had when I was nine. Nine years old.

(That's not exactly something to brag about, right there. It kinda looks like you're simply trying to find somebody to blame the unfortunate squandering of "an entire decade" on. Sure, blaming all your problems on "the Christians" is completely socially acceptable, but if intellectual acuity is your goal, perhaps you should seek the truth a bit further afield.)

I especially dislike how those Christians treat women!! GRRRR!!~!!!! THEY ARE SO PROVINCIAL, SO BACKWARDS, SO...

... Oh, wait a minute... Forced Marriage and 'Honor Killings' Happen in Britain, U.S Too - The Daily Beast ... wrong religion...

Forced marriage and honor violence are often viewed in the West as backward customs relegated to impoverished developing nations. But a spate of gruesome honor killings in the U.K., and new research about the prevalence of underage marriage in the U.S., for the first time show that this kind of violence against women is far more widespread.

My experiences in Northern Ireland persisted in my thoughts for quite some time after I returned home. What made these people hate each other so much? What was the root cause? The essential teachings of their religions were the same; Protestantism and Catholicism are both denominations of Christianity. They are brother institutions. Where did these family feuds come from?

Do you know what "tribalism" means...? Because if you look a bit further into these "family feuds" you'll find that often people who practice the same religion with only slight variations (for example, the Kurdish and Shi'ia Muslims) often don't just get into arguments or fights, but go on bloody rampages against each other. That hasn't happened in the United States or the UK in like... well, forever. Lutherans and Episcopalians don't put bombs in each others' cars. Catholics don't go marauding through Jewish neighborhoods, vandalizing and terrorizing. Jerry Falwell may be a bit of a blowhard and a hypocrite, but he's not going to order me to be stoned to death for not wearing a bra. (I know that because I went to one of his speeches in Denver a long time ago, and stood right in front of his podium in a tight white tee-shirt without a bra on. He got pretty upset and pointed his finger at me a few times, and... that was it. No stoning.)

The War Crimes of Saddam Hussein
(Saddam Hussein seems like a really intolerant person, and unfortunately he had the resources and manpower to kill just about everybody he didn't like, or who didn't practice the EXACT SAME form of religion that he did. I mean, it wasn't really about religion, but that was just his cheap excuse to wade in oceans of blood, the blood of his ENEMIES.)

Amanpour: Looking back at Rwanda genocide - CNN
The above is a tale of what happened when two tribes of people who were all the same color, wore the same clothes, worshiped the same deities, ate the same food, shopped at the same stores, and basically were almost identical to each other in every outward way EXCEPT for some slight ideologic differences, couldn't talk things out and one group of people shot, hacked, beat, and generally pulverized the other group to death. That includes old people, pregnant women, and little kids.

Bill Clinton, who is marginally a Christian, went in 1996 to apologize to the survivors of the Rwandan massacre for the US crapping out on them at such a tough time.

Bill Clinton--now THERE'S a tolerant guy!

Anyway, I hope this was helpful in some way.

Yours in Chaos,

~~ Scarlett