Thread: Gang Culture and How to Deal with It

Britain is addressing its issue by cross talking with America on how they deal with their gang culture and the police whom I am assuming are
heavy handed.
Isthis a good way to go about it or are they other better effective ways?
For example why turn to someone with the same problem?
Why not turn to someone who has not got this GANG culture problem?

How is someone who never had such problems supposed to help you?

They are asking them precisely because they've had that problem for ages, and are more experienced at dealing with it. It's not like you can completely eliminate gangs either, but they probably have several ways to reduce the damage they cause to society.

Originally Posted by Nacian

Britain is addressing its issue by cross talking with America on how they deal with their gang culture and the police whom I am assuming are
heavy handed.
Isthis a good way to go about it or are they other better effective ways?
For example why turn to someone with the same problem?
Why not turn to someone who has not got this GANG culture problem?

So name a state without gangs. Vatican City? Lets try turning Britain into a theocracy!

What you're looking for simply doesn't exist. There is no country the size of Britain, particularly that shares an approximation of their culture, that is without gangs.

Even if you think the United States is doing a horrible job they're a good choice, because then they become your blueprint of what no to do. Systems sometimes become traps of momentum, and the United States would probably love to extricate themselves from some policy decisions but just can't because of the political and economic costs. By sharing in both the "do this" and "this didn't work" categories, the United States is a wealth of information for Britain.

Originally Posted by Nacian

Britain is addressing its issue by cross talking with America on how they deal with their gang culture and the police whom I am assuming are
heavy handed.
Isthis a good way to go about it or are they other better effective ways?
For example why turn to someone with the same problem?
Why not turn to someone who has not got this GANG culture problem?

How much do you actually know about gang culture?

So name a state without gangs. Vatican City?

So you name the state with the biggest gang in the world.

Originally Posted by Amber Leaf

So you name the state with the biggest gang in the world.

All joking aside, the Vatican City is probably your only example, and it's based off zealotry and exclusionary selection of population. You could implement the same tactics in Britain, but it wouldn't be a place I'd want to live.

Crammed quarters with high levels of poverty and unemployment are perfect breeding habitats for gangs and other criminal-related activities.

http://www2.ambientdesign.com/galler...0_by_briex.jpg

LOWER EAST SIDE PHOTO 1900 - Bing Images



How to deal with it? A four-lettered word: H-O-P-E.

Crammed quarters with high levels of poverty and unemployment

Just like estates all over South London - http://www.flickr.com/photos/sarflondondunc/5164458249/

How to deal with it? A four-lettered word: H-O-P-E

Not at all. This will just allow the problems to continue.

Community action, understanding of the reasons why this happened and education are what will stop this happening again.

Originally Posted by Amber Leaf

Not at all. This will just allow the problems to continue.

Community action, understanding of the reasons why this happened and education are what will stop this happening again.

has that by chance worked anywhere else?

Originally Posted by Robinjazz

Crammed quarters with high levels of poverty and unemployment are perfect breeding habitats for gangs and other criminal-related activities.

http://www2.ambientdesign.com/galler...0_by_briex.jpg

LOWER EAST SIDE PHOTO 1900 - Bing Images



How to deal with it? A four-lettered word: H-O-P-E.

For the one split-second, a person who joins a gang and a person who plans suicide have a lot in common. Both suffocatiing by hopelessness and despair, they decide they can no longer exist in their current situation. The jobless man who puts a gun to his head because his dire situation has squeezed all the light from his life would never have killed himself with steady employment. The boy who turns to crime because he has been abandoned by either parents or society would never have joined a gang with proper guidance.

Of course, there is wiggle room for exceptions. But, overall, "hope" and "opportunity to succeed" could rid gangs of 80%-90% of future members.





From personal experience, I can say that a teenager who has a decent job and earns a decent salary is one happy camper. I recall my first job as a helper on a truck. When I used to finish work and walk to the subway station to take the train home, I was overwhelmed with a wonderful feeling of accomplishment. That feeling still gives me goose bumps today. In my life (and I've tried all kinds of drugs) I have yet to run across the high I experienced after a hard days work. When a person knows they are earning their way through life (regardless of his/her occupation), they feel a sense of belonging which, in turn, makes them feel worthy of themselves.


Too many get abandoned; too many get trampled; too many become lost.

Originally Posted by Nicky

How much do you actually know about gang culture?

A fair bit from what I hear andkids I know and taught.
Why do yo ask?

Originally Posted by elite

How is someone who never had such problems supposed to help you?

They are asking them precisely because they've had that problem for ages, and are more experienced at dealing with it. It's not like you can completely eliminate gangs either, but they probably have several ways to reduce the damage they cause to society.

I am looking into comapring a state without a gang culture to a one that has because the one without the gangs is obviously doing something righ with their youth. Simple as.
Looking for advice with America is not going to solve anyhting because they have the same problems.
It is about looking for ideas in countries that do not have this similar problem.
I mean into the middle east for example. They have no gang culture there.
WHat are they doing right with their youths for example is a the way forward.

Originally Posted by Capulet

So name a state without gangs. Vatican City? Lets try turning Britain into a theocracy!

What you're looking for simply doesn't exist. There is no country the size of Britain, particularly that shares an approximation of their culture, that is without gangs.

Even if you think the United States is doing a horrible job they're a good choice, because then they become your blueprint of what no to do. Systems sometimes become traps of momentum, and the United States would probably love to extricate themselves from some policy decisions but just can't because of the political and economic costs. By sharing in both the "do this" and "this didn't work" categories, the United States is a wealth of information for Britain.

I am not thinking America is doind a horrible thing. I am saying they have not solved the problem.
There are other states/countries in the middle east for example who do not have a gang culture well not as bad as in Britain I do not think.
Solving problems is going back to basics by looking into somewhere where the problem not has risen ..yet.

has that by chance worked anywhere else?

Yes, it worked in L.A. after the riots, it worked in Brixton after the 1981 riots. I'm sure there are many other examples.