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    Europeans Run Wild Destroying Things

    Sounds like a good headline to me. (title of the thread)

    Rioters battle UK police after anti-cuts rally - Yahoo! News

    LONDON (Reuters) – Black-clad, masked youths battled riot police and attacked banks and luxury stores in central London on Saturday, overshadowing a protest by more than a quarter of a million Britons against government spending cuts.

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    Ahem, we're brits. Only thing that unites europeans is a continent and an anti-democratic union.... Anyhow... The split-off group were anarchists and anti-royalists apparently. They plan to stage five riots at once, I think on the day of the royal wedding, in the shape of a pentagram, (they're Satanists too ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsanityStrickenWriter View Post
    Ahem, we're brits. Only thing that unites europeans is a continent and an anti-democratic union.... Anyhow... The split-off group were anarchists and anti-royalists apparently. They plan to stage five riots at once, I think on the day of the royal wedding, in the shape of a pentagram, (they're Satanists too ).
    Sorry to hear that, Insanity. No pun intended. I lie.

    What do you think about the 300,000 jobs being cut in your country? Needed?

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    Well, I really can't stand the thought of us running a deficit, debt ought to be going down, not up. We already pay huge sums of money on interest as it is, and its bad to just shove all this debt onto the generations that follow, when we had no real excuse for running up such huge sums in the first place.

    So yes, I think cuts are needed, on the condition that they're made in the right places. Not sure if cutting public sector jobs is the way to go about it, but then a lot of them are pretty ridiculous anyway, and, pretty much all of them are 100% subsidized by the private sector in one way or another. It was foolish to have created a lot of these jobs in the first place. Then again, maybe I'm just a bit biased because I'm in the outskirts of London. Perhaps I'd see things differently if I were a northerner

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    The riots are the main focus in the press, as is to be expected. Putting it in perspective, there were 250,000 people involved in the march and only 149 arrests have been made at the time of writing this.

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    Question here, when people get arrested for protesting are there any charges on them? if there are then for how long can they remain in prison?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Custard View Post
    Question here, when people get arrested for protesting are there any charges on them? if there are then for how long can they remain in prison?
    The don't get charged for protesting but will be prosecuted in cases of assault, causing damage to property or looting. What sentences they get will largely depend on whether they already have a record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron View Post
    The don't get charged for protesting but will be prosecuted in cases of assault, causing damage to property or looting. What sentences they get will largely depend on whether they already have a record.
    Don't they? Tell that to the protesters at Menwith Hill who were done for holding a placard saying "George Bush, Oh Dear", they were not protesting, they were harrassing American servicemen, tell me the difference. Or Sean Kirtley who updated a website with details of peaceful and lawful protests, because some of those attending used abusive language he was done for "Conspiracy to interfere in a contractual process" and served 16 months of the four and a half year sentence before he got out on appeal. Several acts of recent years are so loosely worded that almost anyone can be arrested for almost anything in the line of protest, for example the public order act. the trade union act, the serious organised crime act, the protection from harassment act, anti-social behaviour act and the criminal justice act. If you want to protest Baron, better make sure it is about some cause the police and government approve of.

    By the way, the police acknowledged at the time the group in fortnum were non-violent and directed them around the corner to "Stay away from the troublemakers", then arrested them for tresspass, there was no looting, assault or damage done by the group arrested.
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    Olly, I'll repeat what I said in an earlier post. There were 250,000 people on the march and there have so far been only 149 arrests.

    I just wonder what percentage of those marchers bothered to turn out to vote in the last general election.

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    Okay, I was about to ask why Europeans (U.K., France, Italy, Greece etc.) have to break or destroy things when they're protesting, but then I read Olly's post. You UK'ers are screwed by the king and queen. Time to elect a President and sell the crown jewels. Or are you all too busy drinking tea in your spare time and plotting anarchist revolts?


    (what the ___ kind of modern nation has anarchists in it anyways?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron View Post
    Olly, I'll repeat what I said in an earlier post. There were 250,000 people on the march and there have so far been only 149 arrests.

    I just wonder what percentage of those marchers bothered to turn out to vote in the last general election.
    I'll expand a little, I think it was 145 of those 149 were arrested over the invasion of Fortnum and Mason, they were a non-violent group who did no damage to property or people. There were independent camera teams with them who filmed police explaining that there was violent disorder outside and the police wanted to get them away so they did not become involved, they co-operated with the police, were ushered round the corner, kettled then arrested and handcuffed one by one. The police did almost nothing about the violent protesters, they make good propaganda for those who want restrictive laws after all.

    I get the impression that for many the attitude is, "What is the point of voting if none of the candidates represent you?", and I tend to agree, the ways Thatcher and Blair have been employed since they left office make one feel they were probably in the same employ before they left office.
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    the majority of those 149 were later released without charge. most protesters were peaceful , i know coz i was there, but the police were heavy handed and often brutal which caused some violence to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Writ-with-Hand View Post
    Okay, I was about to ask why Europeans (U.K., France, Italy, Greece etc.) have to break or destroy things when they're protesting, but then I read Olly's post. You UK'ers are screwed by the king and queen. Time to elect a President and sell the crown jewels. Or are you all too busy drinking tea in your spare time and plotting anarchist revolts?
    I think you'll find the President of the United States has the power (and lately, inclination) to act more like a despot than the Queen of England does. I think the US should sell Air Force One and acclaim Palin queen.
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