Thread: Abortion: Yes or No?

Discuss this hot topic here.

Personally, I think abortion is a good idea for a couple of reasons:

1. It allows unplanned pregnancies to be stopped, which protects the world’s youth from experiencing what it’s like to be a mother or father. Abortion creates less single-parent families.

2. It stops defected children from being born. This may seem a very cruel point, but it is one that I believe in. If we can predict whether a child will be born with a mental or physical disability we can stop the pregnancy. That way, the children and parents won’t have to go through the hard life a disability gives.

Any thoughts?

While I disaprove of abortions of convenience, in cases of rape, incest, where pregnancy is forced upon a person, I support a woman's right to an abortion in those cases. Your simple yes/no does not cover the broad spectrum of opinion or possibility. As far as point 2 goes, I am undecided, and will not invoke Godwin's law this early in the thread, no matter how inevitable it is given the subject matter.

I am pro-choice up to a certain point in the development of the foetus, and under certain conditions (if the parents are teenagers, if the woman was raped, if the pregnancy was unplanned and the child would be living in extremely poor conditions, and if there is no chance that the child could be put up for adoption).

I believe that in the UK a woman can have an abortion for personal reasons 24 weeks into pregnancy. By this point, the foetus is well developed. It has lungs, skin and other developing organs. It's heart is beating, and it can feel pain. I think the UK law for abortion should be changed, making only women who are at an earlier stage in pregnancy be able to have an abortion.

The only tangible belief I actually have is that there's no cut-off point. After conception, there's no way to define if a fetus is life or not. It's an inevitable chain of events unless gone awry that will lead to the birth of a living child. Doing something to it (like abortion) is the interruption of this process of life. Sounds like "death" to me.

On your first point, situations like that are tragic. I however, don't think it's efficient to just erase the result of the problem, rather than the cause. For each unplanned pregnancy, there'd be a dead fetus. The logical but difficult course of action would be to limit unplanned pregnancies as much as possible. All that situation would amount to is hiding the hard truth of life.

Your second point made a lot more sense, and it's a tough call. That's really more of a personal thing for each person. Like me, I tend to think life at all is better than no life. No one has a perfect life, no one is capable of constantly living to the peak potential of life. So who's to say "His life would be too troubled and difficult. It's best to just abort"? If there isn't a perfect example of life, I don't think abortions should be considered a way to prevent life we deem "imperfect"

This is what goes through my head whenever I think about abortion:

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In practical terms, the embryo, fetus, etc is just a few chemicals that only becomes a bigger sack of chemicals with age. You should be able to get rid of it, whatever it is, at any stage if you like, so long as it doesn't cause unnecessary suffering (something to be decided on a case by case basis because the suffering part might sometimes be necessary). Why allow a child to be born with obvious imperfections? The weakest of people have never taught us anything. Chuck it away, you can try again another time whenever you want. Nobody wants you to put unnecessary stumbling blocks in your own path. It's all about you, and you have the right to pull whatever you want out of your body.

We don't want you to get the wrong impression, however, we love children; we only want the very best for you and your child. *snip snip*.

In certain cases, if it could be done retroactively -- I'd be all for it.

Originally Posted by JosephB

In certain cases, if it could be done retroactively -- I'd be all for it.

After you.

Originally Posted by JosephB

In certain cases, if it could be done retroactively -- I'd be all for it.

Yes, you probably would. Perhaps you should be grateful to those pro-lifers.

it would seem strange that one that denounces religion is pro-life, but here is my logic.

there is no afterlife, therefore an aborted child will just die. I believe with the choices available, a baby should not be killed and denied the life we enjoy.\

though on a different note, i saw a poster on the internet. It was aimed at the christian-conservative-many-times-bigoted-movement (not all, but a good amount.) It said "May the fetus you save be gay!"
it thought it was funny, at least.

Originally Posted by SeattleGhostWriter

Here is my thought on abortion - not only is it taking the life of that unborn child, but it is also taking the life that that child potentially would have been able to bring into this world.

Think about it. abort a child, the pregnancy is done, but you have also destroyed generations of potential children that that one child could have had if they were allowed to be brought forth in this world.

Abortion is not the answer, abstinence is the answer because we need to bring back Chastity. Sexual experience is affecting younger and younger generations of youth today to the point that those who are just now beginning to experience puberty are already sexually active.

well genetically, sex right after puberty is how it is supposed to work. Men and women now are mature more slowly because of the culture, so in effect, it is not as great an idea any more.

it actually did work once upon a time. As an example, people have thought that arranged marriages in the middle ages never worked, but they many times did. Teenagers fall in love easily, and so those children that marry young suddenly 'learn' to fall in love with that person. Obviously if the person is a pain in the ars it won't work, but that's the same in modern society.

I think that people’s thoughts on abortion reflect both their personalities and their personal religion. If you follow a faith that believes in afterlife or reincarnation, you may be more “pro-abortion”. It may also rely on when you think a fetus is actually alive. I think that the possible parents should have complete choice over the life of the child; up to the day it exits the vagina. Any time before that I would not consider the fetus as living.

I think that teenagers are also experiencing sex and the larger effects of puberty at a younger age. I will admit, I lost my virginity at age 14, of my own choice and I don’t regret it. But should my former girlfriend have become pregnant, she probably would have gotten an abortion.

Originally Posted by Richard Smith

While I disaprove of abortions of convenience, in cases of rape, incest, where pregnancy is forced upon a person, I support a woman's right to an abortion in those cases. Your simple yes/no does not cover the broad spectrum of opinion or possibility. As far as point 2 goes, I am undecided, and will not invoke Godwin's law this early in the thread, no matter how inevitable it is given the subject matter.

Here here! Well said.

Originally Posted by Ambrivian

I think that people’s thoughts on abortion reflect both their personalities and their personal religion. If you follow a faith that believes in afterlife or reincarnation, you may be more “pro-abortion”.

That doesn't quite explain religious zealots preaching how abortion is immoral.

Any time before that I would not consider the fetus as living.

Despite the fact that it would at any point before birth be undergoing processes that biologically qualify something as "living" but right, you know, whatever.

Originally Posted by Ambrivian

I think that people’s thoughts on abortion reflect both their personalities and their personal religion. If you follow a faith that believes in afterlife or reincarnation, you may be more “pro-abortion”. It may also rely on when you think a fetus is actually alive. I think that the possible parents should have complete choice over the life of the child; up to the day it exits the vagina. Any time before that I would not consider the fetus as living.

I think that teenagers are also experiencing sex and the larger effects of puberty at a younger age. I will admit, I lost my virginity at age 14, of my own choice and I don’t regret it. But should my former girlfriend have become pregnant, she probably would have gotten an abortion.

if it has hands feet, a heart, lungs, toes, nails, eyes, hair, limbs...everything you and i have... what is it missing that makes it not human?

Originally Posted by Ambrivian

Discuss this hot topic here.

Personally, I think abortion is a good idea for a couple of reasons:

1. It allows unplanned pregnancies to be stopped, which protects the world’s youth from experiencing what it’s like to be a mother or father. Abortion creates less single-parent families.

2. It stops defected children from being born. This may seem a very cruel point, but it is one that I believe in. If we can predict whether a child will be born with a mental or physical disability we can stop the pregnancy. That way, the children and parents won’t have to go through the hard life a disability gives.

Any thoughts?

the beauty of humanity is the acceptance of people that are not up to the physical capabilities of others. If not, we're common animals. If man lacks the compassion so as to say children with 'defects' should be aborted, it is a sad thing indeed. Instead of massacre why not find ways to correct the problem? To make every human life worth it?

though, in the case of rape and incest (god forbid it's consensual) i support the use of the Plan B pill. Also, if the child is going ot die, and not aborting it will also kill the mother, might as well save the mother and cause less pain to the family.

WARNING: the following link is a picture of an aborted baby (if it works). I am involved in the pro-life movement, these baby bodies have been pulled out of dumpsters from abortion clinics around the world. This is just one picture that can be merely googled. It takes a strong gut to see it, and something i don't have to make it happen. Do you know this child's name? It doesn't have one, it's been aborted-- a cold fact indeed. Click the link ambrivian, i dare you o see the cost of abortion. Where do you think they put that baby, i'll tell you that it isn't a little coffin.

http://tjic.com/archive/second_trimester_abortion.jpg