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About LinkBacksI noticed there is a thread about suicide already, but I wondered what everyone thinks about someone who signs a DNR form. Would you consider that a form of suicide?
I noticed there is a thread about suicide already, but I wondered what everyone thinks about someone who signs a DNR form. Would you consider that a form of suicide?
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No, it has to be called a suicide form in order to be...Originally Posted by Kayleigh7
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No, because you are not actually trying to kill yourself.
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No, not at all. If a person doesn't want to be resuscitated, that's their choice. Dieing of natural causes is not the same thing as taking one's own life.
We have a form at work that releases intervention of any kind. It's called the Palliative Care Wishes form, it used to be called the Terminal Care Wishes form. It has a thousand questions regarding your choice of death. One specific question asks if you want to be resuscitated.
Most older people say no. Otherwise, we could probably keep a large percentage of our residents alive forever on life support.
*shudders* Not a wise move.
Last edited by ash somers; 10-27-2009 at 10:49 AM.
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A DNR form simply states that if you die, let it alone. Many times we are required to give CPR to someone who is not going to come back to life because they have been dead too long, because CPR cannot be stopped after starting it until a doctor is present to say to stop.
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But how long is too long dead?
I had a heart attack 6 weeks ago (I'm 20) and I was dead for 37 minutes. I've been told 15 minutes is too long. Others tell me 40 minutes is the "cut off". EVERYONE said I would have at least brain damage! But alas, the paramedics did CPR for 32 minutes (I was dead 5 minutes before they arrived) and I have no brain damage... I have no brain damage... brain damage.
What were we talking about?
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There are exceptions to everything, you know. I'm glad you didn't suffer any ill effects, and certainly the CPR worked for you. It doesn't for everyone. We've done CPR on people and never even got a pulse.
And some people just don't want to be resusitated, especially if they've been sick or debilitated for a long time. On the other hand, we've had 90+ year olds want everything done for them.
I'm too blessed to be stressed and too anointed to be disappointed.
I heard a story about an old woman who went into cardiac arrest at a nursing home. The paramedics got there and couldn't resuscitate her. So, they airlifted her to a hospital where she entered the emergency room and they managed to get her stabilized. Unfortunately for everyone involved, the old lady had signed a DNR. It left someone with a whopping medical bill to cover. I do know that the helicopter flight cost at least a few grand.
I don't think it's suicide. Some people sign them for religious reasons, like some religions aren't allowed to have blood transfusions.
Others sign them because they are terminally ill and want to die with some form of dignity left.
And others sign them because they think it is politically incorrect to bring a dead person back to life, like my Nanna. I don't agree with her decision, but it is her decision and I can't change it for her.
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What do you think would happen if you ignored the DNR and resuscitated them anyway? Is that a law you would be breaking and what would be the penalty? Perhaps the party that is dying would become so angry you resuscitated them that they would murder you. Now that would be an interesting tale.
Well the effect is the same. You choose to die, you kill yourself. You can argue "natural" causes all you want, but you're still ultimately killing yourself. That's my view on the matter. Sure, you're not putting a gun to your head, but what does that matter? Some of you sound like lawyers, lol.
Last edited by Adjective Ocean; 02-23-2010 at 02:55 PM.
rubbish!
From what I know (I know my knowledge is not vast...), A DNR form is not the same as suicide. It simply means that you will no longer want to be resuscitated once something of a fatal nature happens to you.
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lol, actually, that's not funny
and you've hit upon an ethical delimma
i should probably know the answer *racks brain*
perhaps our learned friend alan, could enlighten us > ?
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