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Old 11-11-2007, 01:54 PM   #16
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What about intelligence without beauty? (my last hope, hehe)
He he A life of loneliness?
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Old 11-12-2007, 04:48 AM   #17
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Whenever I read a story about someone who is plain or has some sort of defect, I ignore it really, and make them beautiful in my own mind based on their character. It doesn't matter how well you describe someone - your reader will still see what they want to see.
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:58 AM   #18
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What about intelligence without beauty? (my last hope, hehe)
Actually it depends on how you define both beauty and intelligence. For me everything that pleases the senses is beautiful/has an element of beauty in it. Let it be even kind words. Someone really intelligent, in my opinion, would be beautiful too. Both are very much related to each other.
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:04 AM   #19
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Whenever I read a story about someone who is plain or has some sort of defect, I ignore it really, and make them beautiful in my own mind based on their character. It doesn't matter how well you describe someone - your reader will still see what they want to see.
Really? You think so? On the other hand, I believe we need to give credit to George Eliot for the wonderful description of surroundings. It does matter.
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:16 PM   #20
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Even Scarlett O'Hara wasn't beautiful....

Scarlett O'Hara was not beautiful, but men seldom realized it when caught by her charm as the Tarleton twins were.
Get out of my head, LouLou! That's exactly what I was going to say.

Just one example of a very strong, alluring character who was chased after by all the men in the county, but was not conventionally beautiful. It all came from inside. And I think it's whats inside that makes a character attractive or not. For example, you could have a supermodel as your main character who is stuck up and rude, and expects the world on a silver platter, and she would most likely be categorized as "unattractive" by the reader. I think that the inside is most important, not to sound too cliche
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:57 AM   #21
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Funny that they cast Vivian Leigh as a "Not-So-Beautiful" woman. That was probably her greatest acting challenge.
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:09 AM   #22
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Imagine remaking it with Cher as Scarlett and Michael Jackson as the guy. That'd be a movie to watch.. Not "Dumb and Dumber" as much as "Ugly and Uglier"...
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:48 AM   #23
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Really? You think so? On the other hand, I believe we need to give credit to George Eliot for the wonderful description of surroundings. It does matter.
Yes I do. We are not talking about scenery here, we are talking about how a person looks... Currently there are 6 billion different faces to choose from. Take your pick.
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:17 AM   #24
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Human beings have always been fascinated with beauty. That is why we spend millions on cinema tickets to see body beautiful in action. And many millions more on cosmetics to look beautiful
Your sex spend millions on cosmetics to make cosmetics manufacturers rich, and nothing more. I had a mate whose mother worked for Helena Rubenstein, in their factory, and she told us they hosed more spillage out the door at the end of the day than ever found its way into bottles. And all you witless, brainless Stepford Wives happily pay through the nose for rubbish that cost s.f.a. to produce. I repeat, it's rubbish. All you have to go by, to assess what to purchase, is some clever advertising agency's spiel.

Seriously, have you ever really listened to the crap they spout on TV about the ingredients in these magic lotions? Pigs-poop and Gooly-gum just about covers it. Good old scrub down with Pear's Soap and water's as good as anything. And a real woman has no need of artificial colouring or flavouring anywhere. Believe me.

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Power of Beauty it unsettles us, it inspires us and it entrances us. There is no escaping. It turns our gaze again and again. Beauty is Truth and Truth Beauty as Keats wrote but whatever it is it is indeed very powerful because it inspires love...
Fancy words with no substance. If you've conned yourself into believing this bullshit, all you're doing is judging books by their covers. Bah. Falling in love with an image. You need a dose of reality.
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It's not so much beauty that entrances us, but breast size.
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Your sex spend millions on cosmetics to make cosmetics manufacturers rich, and nothing more.
And your sex spends millions becoming fat slobs in front of telly watching men kicking a ball

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And all you witless, brainless Stepford Wives happily pay through the nose for rubbish that cost s.f.a. to produce. I repeat, it's rubbish. All you have to go by, to assess what to purchase, is some clever advertising agency's spiel.
The men are quite happy to pay for those rubbish eagerly as long as they get a bit
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Pigs-poop and Gooly-gum just about covers it.
But you are quite happy to lick this off women's faces

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And a real woman has no need of artificial colouring or flavouring anywhere. Believe me.
If you prefer your women to smell like a yak...then good on you.

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Fancy words with no substance.
At least women can speak those fancy words
I guess you prefer Grunts to words?
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If you've conned yourself into believing this bullshit...
And women get men to pay for all this - see how clever?
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All you're doing is judging books by their covers
Sex appeal is based on the covers
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For many thats what they do.
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Reality is that we are entranced by Beauty.
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Reality is that we are entranced by Beauty.
If reality is a strung-out toothpick puking in a toilet after every meal, for the love of God give me some damn fantasy.

What the media calls beauty and what writers call beauty are two different perceptions.
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Old 11-13-2007, 10:28 AM   #28
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for the love of God give me some damn fantasy.
Yes. We prefer fictions because Reality does not bend to our Will or to the limitlessness of our imaginations.

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Beauty stands on it's own. It has it's own self-verification mechanism
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Beauty stands on it's own. It has it's own self-verification mechanism
Beauty is a matter of perception. Haven't you heard the old adage? The beauty you speak of is the beauty that people like Tyra Banks have rammed down your credulous throat.
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Beauty is a matter of perception.
It is indeed. It is the perception of the Symmetry of the Form.

You being Sci Fi I thought you would know that
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