Can you bounce imformation on "why zoos are good for animals" - Writers Forum

cooldudemanus · 04-09-2007, 10:55 PM

here is my outline so far for my argumentive essay

ZOOS are great for animals a

REASON ONe they provide a spendid enviroment

- They provide enough food for animals

- provide other animals 24/7 to socialize with similar animals

reason 2 they preseve endangered species

-Not only do they preserve species but also multiply the same species at the

same time by providing the proper enviroment.

oposing viewpoint they prevent animals from living in thier NATURAL enviroment

- by preventing them from living in thier natural enviroment prey is protecte

from predators

reason 3

cooldudemanus · 04-09-2007, 11:05 PM

um guys this is kinda urgent

cooldudemanus · 04-09-2007, 11:08 PM

i mean like really urgent

Evelyn · 04-09-2007, 11:57 PM

(it's due early tomorrow morning, eh? ;)

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Originally Posted by cooldudemanus

ZOOS are great for animals a

REASON ONe they provide a spendid enviroment

- They provide enough food for animals

- provide other animals 24/7 to socialize with similar animals

Don't forget veterinary(sp?) care.

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Originally Posted by cooldudemanus

reason 2 they preseve endangered species

-Not only do they preserve species but also multiply the same species at the

same time by providing the proper enviroment.

oposing viewpoint they prevent animals from living in thier NATURAL enviroment

- by preventing them from living in thier natural enviroment prey is protecte

from predators

You've covered all my thoughts on that one.

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Originally Posted by cooldudemanus

reason 3

When the public is able to view, learn about, and interact with animals in zoos, they will care more about wild animals and be more willing to set aside nature preserves, fund endangered species protection, etc.

Not much but I hope it helps :)

- Ev

mammamaia · 04-10-2007, 06:19 PM

sorry, but i don't believe there is a single good reason why zoos are 'good' for any animals!

and, next time you want help with a school assignment, i suggest you not wait till it's due the next day...

Crepuscular · 04-10-2007, 07:53 PM

Would you want to go live in a human zoo as long as they gave you a nice room with tv and a great view and yard? But you couldn't leave and your free will was limited to the walls. And strangers would come stare at you forever until you died.

Feeding time a six sharp!

The only real reason we have 99% of the zoos is for sheer human enjoyment.

What I hate much more are circus acts. Teaching a tiger to jump through a ring of fire is abuse. When people get mauled doing these things I feel no sympathy.

And that goes for the Croc Hunter. He basically ran around the world disturbing creatures, grabbing them by their tails, poking at them, taunting them, controlling them, and then said how beautiful they are as a means of justifying his abuse. And because he said it with enthussiasm and an accent, everyone thought his death was just so unfortunate. I found the way he died to be justice for the animal kingdom.

Vertz · 04-10-2007, 08:19 PM

Freedom in the wild for animals is essentially hunting in their territory. It's a world where there may not be enough food to survive and danger always exists. In a zoo, animals get food with little work involved and still maintain their territorial lives. People do stare at them all day, but it doesn't matter to the animal. How often do you see animals truly upset about people looking at them? Zoos also keep populations of endangered species alive -- maybe for a chance at life in the wild again.

*Angel · 04-10-2007, 11:06 PM

wild animal parks are much better then zoo's,

if i'm not mistaken most zoo's animals are more displayed than anything else, so thats not really good for the animals and aren't they more isolated in Zoo's, so they are limited to other animal interaction. all though they are good in a long run perspective for what they do.

also if you haven't turned this in, i would highly suggest using better words, like instead of saying

"Not only do they preserve species but also multiply the same species at the same time by providing the proper enviromen."

instead of multiply use "they also help the animals breed" sounds more profesional. I.m.o. or something along those lines.

oh and crepuscular no offense you need to educate your opinion more. i'm not saying exacty what your saying is wrong. (of course i would hate being in a cage too, and be told to jump through hoops)
but the reason why Zoo's are made to entertain people is so they can make money, so they can use that money to help animals, cause unfortunatly they can't do it for free. at least not at the same level.

but as for this

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And that goes for the Croc Hunter. He basically ran around the world disturbing creatures, grabbing them by their tails, poking at them, taunting them, controlling them, and then said how beautiful they are as a means of justifying his abuse. And because he said it with enthussiasm and an accent, everyone thought his death was just so unfortunate. I found the way he died to be justice for the animal kingdom.

i can think of no better words for this than complete ignorance.

i barely ever watched his shows and even i knew what he was trying to do for the world. His whole reason for his T.V series was to expose the world to the beauty of nature and how precious it is. He didn't abuse the animals and had extreme respect for nature. "Controling" the crocs in the way he did was the safest way for him and his researchers to gather information on the croc.

Seeing from what you said, i take it your an animal lover. but you seem to take peoples actions with animals only at a face value you choose to see.

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I found the way he died to be justice for the animal kingdom.

becuase to say that. Proves your ignorance.

sorry for the off-topic rant but that last sentance kind of pissed me off

tearsstream · 04-11-2007, 12:34 AM

with all due respect, mammamaia, everyone who has a life procrastinates every now-and-then. It's my own fatal flaw and I don't care. It doesn't help to be all hatti-tatti-ta-preachy about someone waiting until the night-before to do an assignment when the problem is inevitable and afflicts so many people. But I guess none of this is really helping cooldudemanus. oh well...just thought I'd vent fo. a sec. sorry.

Konignacht · 04-11-2007, 12:38 AM

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when the problem is inevitable

The problem isn't inevitable - think like that and you're defeating yourself.

Not that I don't procrastinate myself, but to be fair, nobody who procrastinates should go looking for help, either. Something about digging and holes and burying oneself in....

tearsstream · 04-11-2007, 12:56 AM

No, I agree. I guess thinking like that can cause self-defeat. I guess I don't mean I have given up on trying not to procrastinate...I just don't shoot myself--or other people--down to much about. We should always try to get things done in a timely fashion, but we don't sometimes, and that's just the way it is. I think my main prerogative was to console cooldudemanus a little bit. It happens to the best of us.

Crepuscular · 04-11-2007, 02:05 AM

Angel,

Since you have decided to attack me when I attacked nobody, but just offered an opinion, I will respond in kind.

I'm quite aware of the purpose of zoos. They make money! Just like you said. That hurts your position. If you believe all zoos take all their profits and save animals of the world, you are naive. Zoos don't mean profit for humans?

That has nothing to do with whether or not having thousands of zoos around the nation is justified. Every animal in a zoo is not a helpless creature they found and saved. It's not all super great.

I don't care, have zoos, don't have zoos, but don't please don't try to teach me about why zoos exists.

Regarding the Croc Hunter, saying my opinion on him is completely ignorant is a goofy comment. Who are you? Who says that about things like that?

You then admit you have rarely seen him or his shows, and know little about him, but will teach me (again) about why he is good and important. All you did is watch a round of tribute shows after he died. Wow, now you know him because Larry King said the Croc Hunter was a hero. Climb aboard.

And no he wasn't saving every animal or doing some wonderful research all the time. A lot of the time he was just poking and cornering animals while "teaching" his viewers about them.

I love that you think he was doing something "for the world." The world? The guy was a decent guy, an entertainer who loved the camera and loved fame and loved animals. He also did a lot of over the line stuff to get the money shot. He wasn't a monster or bad guy but he wasn't a hero doing something for the world.

Issues aren't always black and white, and calling someone ignorant for thinking zoos may not be the best thing around, and the Croc Hunter was not a super hero doing super things for the world, is comical. But then it's quickly disturbing.

*Angel · 04-11-2007, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Crepuscular

Angel,

Since you have decided to attack me when I attacked nobody, but just offered an opinion, I will respond in kind.

I'm quite aware of the purpose of zoos. They make money! Just like you said. That hurts your position. If you believe all zoos take all their profits and save animals of the world, you are naive. Zoos don't mean profit for humans?

That has nothing to do with whether or not having thousands of zoos around the nation is justified. Every animal in a zoo is not a helpless creature they found and saved. It's not all super great.

I don't care, have zoos, don't have zoos, but don't please don't try to teach me about why zoos exists.

Regarding the Croc Hunter, saying my opinion on him is completely ignorant is a goofy comment. Who are you? Who says that about things like that?

You then admit you have rarely seen him or his shows, and know little about him, but will teach me (again) about why he is good and important. All you did is watch a round of tribute shows after he died. Wow, now you know him because Larry King said the Croc Hunter was a hero. Climb aboard.

And no he wasn't saving every animal or doing some wonderful research all the time. A lot of the time he was just poking and cornering animals while "teaching" his viewers about them.

I love that you think he was doing something "for the world." The world? The guy was a decent guy, an entertainer who loved the camera and loved fame and loved animals. He also did a lot of over the line stuff to get the money shot. He wasn't a monster or bad guy but he wasn't a hero doing something for the world.

Issues aren't always black and white, and calling someone ignorant for thinking zoos may not be the best thing around, and the Croc Hunter was not a super hero doing super things for the world, is comical. But then it's quickly disturbing.

fair enough i'll apologize for the attack.

i only attacked because your opinion seemed at first glance to have no backing(which you clarified) and your last sentance about his death was a bit extreme, which was what provoked me. I'm usually indifferent to death, but when someone insults anothers death, it just always seems uncalled for.