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07-22-2008, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by No Brakes
From another thread...
With your terrific insight and humility, you'll go far. Good luck with that.
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Hey, I'm just telling it like it is. 
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07-22-2008, 10:46 AM
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Alright, let's break this down.
1) You wrote a diary
2) You showed it to your dad and your psychologist, two people who under no circumstance are going to be honest. At that point, you decided that these are opinions you'll listen to because they reinforce your self perception
3) You then post some of it online, and get a unanimous agreement that it's not going to get published based on both the content and the length
4) Completely ignoring the part about content, you address only the length and claim that after the brilliance of your novel people will just flock to see who this undiscovered genius is, because again, this plays into your self perception and allows you to ignore any negative criticism whatsoever
So! You kept a Livejournal for a few years and showed it to people who have to say it's good, but you absolutely cannot take criticism. Good luck in the publishing world.
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07-22-2008, 11:09 AM
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Wow, sorry dude, they are right.
The only people who are going to want to read 600,000 or even 60,000 pages of your "visions, video games and TV programming preferences" (or whatever else it is your writing about that applies ONLY to you) are you, your psychologist, your Dad, and maybe a few other people who are close to you and care enough not to break your dream of writing "an amazing life story".
Can you picture yourself picking up someone else's novel about the video games they like and then realizing that they aren't the same video games you like? You would toss the book away and say "mine is better. It has games I like in it."
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Last edited by AA : 07-22-2008 at 11:15 AM.
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07-22-2008, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Nykimbur
Dan, what's wrong with thinking highly of yourself? Over-arrogance is one thing, self confidence is another. And Rose, yeah, I expect I will have to cut out a few hundred thousand words before it's accepted for publishing, but that's fine, I can just save the rest for an uncut version.
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haha uncut version, what is writing coming to when writers are thinking about publishing uncut versions; kinda reminds me of dvd directors cuts.
seems highly homosexual to me.
and the writing isn't anything special.
sorry if im a jerk but if I were you, judging from what I've read I'd delete the whole thing and move on or if your really devoted to this rewrite it better.
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07-22-2008, 02:36 PM
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I don't think anyone should write their autobiography until after they're dead.
Samuel Goldwyn
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07-22-2008, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Nykimbur
Most of you are probably right when you say that it won't be published as a first-time piece, however, if I publish a fiction novel first, possibly the first in the trilogy I'm currently attempting to write, then based on its popularity, I won't have any trouble publishing my bio in any form I see fit.
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Okay, now I just want to give you an epic wedgie.
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07-22-2008, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan
Okay, now I just want to give you an epic wedgie.
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I know, right? This guy said he wanted opinions, but what he apparently wanted was a literary blowjob.
Nykim, we aren't saying all this stuff cuz we're dicks. We're saying it because its our view of what you have produced. The advice is free to take or leave, but you're not gonna sell any of us (or anyone else, most likely) on your bio. Your time would be better put to use on that trilogy you're trying to write.
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07-22-2008, 11:01 PM
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Let's stop being jerks, guys. Why do you think all the other writing sites hate us so much?
Because they're filled with REJECTS from HERE. Rejects who want to reclaim a small amount of their pride, honor and sanity by telling us off, and we create rejects by doing exactly what we're doing now.
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07-23-2008, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by edropus
I take that back. I would read it. That being said, unless the rest of your autobiography is significantly different from the one you've posted here, that's not the case.
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Actually, most of the rest is significantly different, if I posted the whole thing here, which of course would be ridiculous, you'd understand its true value and that it's actually a fairly good piece.
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07-23-2008, 06:01 AM
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If it's a good piece, why did you even bother coming here asking us if we'd read it?
I think you have a bad case of egotism personally. And a fair bit of delusion too.
But whatever it is, good luck to you.
~Christian
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07-23-2008, 06:06 AM
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Well, what I gleaned from here is that it's too long or too rough, so I can redraft it considering those issues.
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07-23-2008, 06:31 AM
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You obviously missed the, "no one wants to read an autobiography about a teenager/20-something's life when nothing of importance has really happened in it" bit. I'd kill myself if I had to read a thousand words about some random person's life if nothing interesting happened in it...let alone 10,000. Forget about 600,000.
"Dear Diary - today I went to the bathroom after I had Indian food. It burned coming out, but the food was worth it."
*shifty eyes* I think not.
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07-23-2008, 08:37 AM
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There are a number of interesting issues, such as supernatural visions, a crush on a cartoon character and a schizophrenic manifestation. It's not just a diary. That's my point.
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07-23-2008, 09:38 AM
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Send me the first 100,000 words via email at base_user@tacomail.com and I promise to put my prejudice aside, read every word and give you your first totally unbiased critique.
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07-23-2008, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Nykimbur
There are a number of interesting issues, such as supernatural visions, a crush on a cartoon character and a schizophrenic manifestation. It's not just a diary. That's my point.
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That is just a diary. No one will want to read it. Judging by the way you write, even if it contained the most amazing substance, no one would still read it. But, you've made it clear you'll have to learn the hard way. Go ahead, edit, submit and let us know how it goes. 
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