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| Classic Literature Discuss the classics like Poe, H.G. Wells, Mark Twain, Oscar Wilde, Emily Dickinson etc. Read them at Literature Vault. |
02-16-2008, 12:00 AM
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Wikipedia is just shit other people post on there...it's not necessarily true.
And the buried alive thing is a myth. Did they even dig up his grave? Why?
I'm assuming you read or saw something about people being buried alive then coming back as vampires? Very rare. The urban legends would spread, until everyone claimed to know first hand of case. Same thing with Consumption, and buried up bodies being "alive."
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just to clarify something wikipedia has extremely strict mods, so if you change something that is false it will be changed within 5 mins. Also, some college I forgot which, proved wikipedia is more effective to use than other websites.
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03-24-2008, 10:49 AM
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I love Poe but I seem to have misplaced my collection of his works (which I've discovered was the much-abridged version).
I recall loving his poetry though I've seen fairly little of it and never owned a collection of it (though I had the fortune of perusing a cousin's copy once). The Bells is probably my favorite, but Raven and Lenore certainly place.
I remember Usher and the Rue Morgue fondly. Amontillado was chilling (no pun intended). It's killing me not to remember where the heck I put that book so that I could spur my memory enough to recall the ones I really liked....
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03-31-2008, 02:12 PM
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I had to leave my Poe book back in the states when I moved. I miss it. I particularly like Cask of Amontillado, Pit and the Pendulum, The Black Cat, The Imp of the Perverse, and most all of his poems.
Didn't much care for The Fall of the House of Usher, though. Or Masque of the Red Death.
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04-01-2008, 09:52 AM
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No one?
No one has mentioned the Tell Tale Heart. I loved that story!
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04-01-2008, 10:00 AM
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Wow, I completely forgot about that! I want my book back... 
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04-23-2008, 08:51 PM
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Long live Edgar Poe.
The master of horror... The inventor of science fiction... and the murder mystery. Dazzling romantic poet. Editor, critic, and visionary. He was the finest American author of his time, and for many many years to come. Countless others owe their winning styles to him. Lovecraft idolized him, and even Steven King recognizes Poe's predominance. Incidentally, about this buried alive thing... Yes, Poe was scared of premature burial. It often happened in Philly back then. I am afraid to say that even to this day, my fine neighbors around me manage to overcome another helpless victim, knocking him over the head with a shovel usually, before burying him in the neighbor's yard. Yes, a fine city this.
Poe did his best work here, though. He never wrote a word of horror before he moved here to the sick city. Once he came here with his young cousin-wife and her mother, to live on Fairmount avenue, it was then that his sensitive nature began to pick up on the horror all around him. It is not difficult to feel the horror here. All one must do is simply close your mind for a moment, and you will hear it as well.
I worked at the Edgar Poe national historical site here for awhile. The house on 7th street, where he wrote The Black Cat and The Cask..., still stands to this day, preserved and yet amazingly decrepit. It is a great trip, a free museum, open every day of the week. you are free to wonder and wander as you will, just dont touch the walls, folks. trust me, dont touch the walls.
True devotes of Poe do not refer to his middle name. Poe hated the man named Allen. Don't honor that man's name.
I have written much about Poe as well, OP, and I hope you are still around on this site. we may be able to discuss Poe at greater length. I could write about him for hours. I have read two biographies of him, and of course, everything he ever wrote. his articles on writing horror poems are required reading for any horror writer. We should continue this soon... there is much to be said on Poe, much that we can still learn from. Perhaps I will write more about him.
here's to the darkness.
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04-24-2008, 03:04 AM
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Wikipedia is just shit other people post on there...it's not necessarily true.
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Off Topic:
I apologize massively for getting OT, but I have to speak up here. I spend several hours a week double checking, correcting, finding citations, and removing incorrect "shit other people post" on Wikipedia along with several other hundreds (perhaps thousands) of selected volunteers. It gets vandalized, but so do other sites. Its not as bad as the rumors, though. The greater problem is that its incomplete.
Nothing personal, Malone. I suppose my hours spent there have made me somewhat defensive.
Back to Poe. He was wicked with rhythm and rhyme in his poetry. Murder mysteries are hard for me to get into, but anyone that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle spoke so highly of piques my attention. I read one when I was quite a bit younger and really should read more now.
Though people attribute a lot of his brilliance to his many hardships, I think he must have been born with talent too. The unfortunate experiences in his life certainly provided inspiration, but his pen did not bleed genius just because of tragedy. My teachers focused so heavily on his poetry that I never really knew how diverse he was as a writer until I did my own research.
I've been meaning to find some of his satires for years. I'm very curious about his sense of humor and how he viewed society or the other subjects his satires were about. Has anyone read his satirical works?
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06-28-2008, 02:46 PM
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I love Poe, he is one of my writing heros.
His poem 'The Raven' I have loved in my childhood.
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07-04-2008, 09:46 PM
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Can't say I've ever enjoyed Poe. I suppose I'll give him another run down the road.
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07-05-2008, 12:34 AM
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There comes Poe, with his raven, like Barnaby Rudge,
Three-fifths of him genius and two-fifths sheer fudge,
Who talks like a book of iambs and pentameters,
In a way to make people of common-sense damn metres,
Who has written some things quite the best of their kind,
But the heart somehow seems all squeezed out by the mind,
James Russell Lowell
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07-05-2008, 02:15 AM
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Poe's collected works have been sitting in my bathroom for about a year; it's a solid 1000 pages at least and doesn't include his poetry. I believe I've read the whole thing by now, but might have skipped a story or two.
I never felt that horror was his strong point; his comedy is by far my favorite. "The Spectacles" and "X-ing a paragrab" are great, although my favorite of all Poe's work, hands-down, is "How to write a Blackwood Article/A Predicament".
Lovecraft, for me, beats Poe hands down when it comes to horror. I just don't get that rushing panic feeling from Poe's stories that I feel I should when reading them, considering the character's situations. That being said, you could definitely argue that Lovecraft wouldn't ever have existed without Poe.
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07-05-2008, 09:37 AM
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Long live Edgar Poe.
The master of horror... The inventor of science fiction...
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Mary Shelley is considered the founder of sci-fi
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07-05-2008, 01:58 PM
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Not by many. Actually the more common names like Welles and Verne generally get the nod.
Not many SF fans would consider anything by Poe or Shelly to be science fiction at all.
Personally, I think Twain had more to do with the creation of the detective fiction than Poe. Puddinhead Wilson was a crime-solver ushing fingerprints and stuff.
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07-05-2008, 02:45 PM
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Brian Aldiss in his book on the history of sf (Trillion Year Spree) made a case for Cyrano de Bergerac as the father of science fiction, though his two books that are cited are satire (The Other World: The Comical History of the States and Empires of the Moon (1657) and The Comical History of the States and the Empires of the Sun" (incomplete at his death).
Frankenstein is considered by many to be sf, though not in the modern tradition-that nod goes to Verne and Wells. Good point about Twain...however Voltaire's Zadig predates that (1748 )
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07-10-2008, 10:34 PM
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Interesting post.
But would Gulliver's Travel's qualify? That was like 1720 or something. For that matter, how about Butler's Erewhon? Though I think that was much later
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