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11-18-2007, 03:18 PM
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Clockwork Orange
I saw the movie years ago, but I'm just now getting around to the book. I'm about half way through now.
His use of language and grammar is jaw dropping in places. I'm thoroughly impressed. Having to learn this new language is a little distracting, but I guess it adds to the overall feel, and most of the words are easy to figure out.
Pretty funny so far, as well, at least for me.
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11-18-2007, 10:31 PM
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Yes, quite a funny book.
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11-20-2007, 06:59 PM
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Better book than movie, IMO.
Me droogs poured moloka into his glazzies while listening to Ludwig Van and his krovi ran red on the pavement.
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"Mother Hitton's Littul Kittons wait for you down there. Little pets they are, little little little pets. Cute little things, they say. Don't you believe it. No man ever saw them and walked away alive. You won't either. That's the final dash, flash. That's the utter clobber, cobber." --Cordwainer Smith, Norstrillia.
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11-21-2007, 12:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ClancyBoy
Better book than movie, IMO.
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I agree, though the film (not movie, please) is dated now, but has some excellent set pieces and still has a capacity to shock.
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11-21-2007, 07:20 AM
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Anyone want to discuss the different endings?
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11-21-2007, 02:55 PM
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Again?
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11-21-2007, 04:50 PM
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Sure.
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"Mother Hitton's Littul Kittons wait for you down there. Little pets they are, little little little pets. Cute little things, they say. Don't you believe it. No man ever saw them and walked away alive. You won't either. That's the final dash, flash. That's the utter clobber, cobber." --Cordwainer Smith, Norstrillia.
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11-21-2007, 07:00 PM
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I love the slang, because I studied Russian and so could see where a lot of the words came from.
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11-21-2007, 08:28 PM
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Yeah, duston, I thought I noticed a Russian influence as I read through. My knowledge of the language is mostly through Cold War books, so I'm glad to know it was intentionally done, and not just something I imagined.
Don't discuss the ending yet! I'm still reading! Different endings? Damnit, now whatever the hell is coming won't be as surprising. I'm reading like five books right now, so it may take me a minute to get through Clockwork Orange, as short as it is.
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11-22-2007, 05:26 AM
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Sure.
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OK, but speak in code so we don't upset malone.
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11-22-2007, 08:19 AM
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It's amazing how he made his own language for the book as well as how good the book is. The language (slang) is also really neat.
The movie was good as well (Can any Kubrick film not be?) but I liked the book better.
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11-22-2007, 09:32 AM
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You don't have to speak in code.  It was my fault for posting before I finished. Discuss away!
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11-22-2007, 07:06 PM
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OK, but speak in code so we don't upset malone.
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I liked the "additional" ending that didn't make it into the movie (and which I don't think is in every edition of the book either.) Some people thought it was "tacked-on" but I think it makes the story a little less grim. Teenagers grow up, and grow out of "ultra-violence" eventually.
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"Mother Hitton's Littul Kittons wait for you down there. Little pets they are, little little little pets. Cute little things, they say. Don't you believe it. No man ever saw them and walked away alive. You won't either. That's the final dash, flash. That's the utter clobber, cobber." --Cordwainer Smith, Norstrillia.
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11-22-2007, 07:28 PM
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I stole this book from english class years ago and have never read it. The slang lingo confuses me. Being dyslexic doesn't help very much, either.
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11-22-2007, 07:35 PM
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Haha. Dyslexia sucks. I had a friend in high school who was dyslexic. He's about to graduate college now from a major tiered university, though, so he turned out alright.
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