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11-28-2006, 02:53 PM
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Ah. That's one of the one's I haven't read yet.
I do know the Reduced Shakespeare Company's version, though.
(If you aren't familiar with the RSC, you're missing out. I suggust you google them.)
Here's the story of a brother named of Othello
(He likes white women and he likes green Jell-O)
And a punk named Iago who made himself a menace
cause he didn't like Othello, the Moor of Venice.
Now Othello got married to Desdemona.
But he went off to the wars and he left her alona.
It was a mona--
A groana--
He left her alona.
He didn't write a letter and didn't telefona.
Othello loved Desi like Adonis loved Venus.
And Desi loved Othello --
'Cuz he had a big ....sword.
Now, Desdemona she was faithful, she was chastity-tight.
She was the daughter of the Duke. Yeah, she was totally white.
But Iago had a plan that was crafty and slick.
he was clever.
He was sly.
He was sort of a dick.
He said, 'I'm gonna shaft the Moor.'
(How're you gonna do it? Tell us.)
'Well, I know his tragic flaw is that he's too damn jealous.
I need a dupe, I need a dope, I need a kind of a schmo.'
So he found a chump sucka by the name of Cassio
and he plants on him Desdemona's handkerchief.
So Othello starts to wondering just maybe if
while he's been out fighting, Commanding an army
are Desi and Cass playing hide the salami?
s-s-s-s-salam-Salami!
So he come back home and stuck a pillow on her face.
Kills her and soliloquizes 'bout his disgrace.
But there's Amelia at the door
who we met in Act IV.
Who say, "You big dummy. She weren't no whore.
She was pure, clean, virginal too.
So why'd you have to go and make her face turn blue?
It's true.
It's you.
Now what you gonna do?"
And Othello says, yo, this is getting pretty scary.
So he pulled out his blade and committed hari-kari.
Iago got caught but he probably copped a plea.
Loaded up his bags
And moved to Beverly.
Hills, that is.
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11-28-2006, 06:00 PM
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As much as I appreciate and enjoy Shakespeare, I've got to admit that twelfth grade English sucked all the fun out of The Tempest for me. I could probably tell you everything about it, including all of the levels that Shakespeare wrote it on, how he utilized language in order to express his message, and how the play served as Shakespeare's farewell note to the stage, but considering how much we analyzed this play I can't stand it anymore.
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11-28-2006, 06:18 PM
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i so wish i had know about them last year, i probably could have convinced my english teacher to buy the dvd of one of their preformances (or a trip to one lol)
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11-28-2006, 06:29 PM
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They are absofreakinglutely hilarious. I've got the dvd and the script. My best friend and I rap othello for random passersby.
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11-30-2006, 07:15 AM
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considering how much we analyzed this play I can't stand it anymore.
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That's the sad thing about shakespeare in schools. He never wrote to be analysed, he wrote to be enjoyed. Over-analysis can suck the joy out of anything. Imagine reducing sex down to a series of mechanical and biological actions.
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11-30-2006, 02:39 PM
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Oh, see. I like analysis. It makes it more exciting. I annotate in my free time, that's how bad I have it. I think the deeper levels make the work seem so much more satisfying and less shallow, you know?Although, I agree it's still important to enjoy the story and writing above all else.
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11-30-2006, 03:20 PM
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That's the sad thing about shakespeare in schools. He never wrote to be analysed, he wrote to be enjoyed. Over-analysis can suck the joy out of anything. Imagine reducing sex down to a series of mechanical and biological actions.
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Exactly! I doubt Shakespeare really wrote with the depth that people suggest.
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11-30-2006, 03:24 PM
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Of course he did. For one, much of that depth comes about from subconscious processes. Word choice, use of metaphors, character traits -- all of it is influenced by things you don't consciously deal with.
And anyway, a lot of the depth is apparent. What made Shakespeare so famous was that he wrote for the common person and the nobility at the same time -- that's quite a bit of depth right for all his metaphors, plots, characters, settings, and ideas to make two very different groups of people
think the play is for them.
A lot of analysis is about adding your own depth to someone's work, but just as much is about scouring the depths that are already there.
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11-30-2006, 10:09 PM
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In Romeo and Juilet, considered to be the greatest love story of all time, the characters meet and automatically fall in love (just like real life!)
That alone is enough to make me dislike Shakespeare.
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12-01-2006, 05:24 AM
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In Romeo and Juilet, considered to be the greatest love story of all time, the characters meet and automatically fall in love (just like real life!)
That alone is enough to make me dislike Shakespeare.
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Romeo and Juliet is one of Shakespeare's earlier works. My English teacher called it "a piece of utter shit."
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12-01-2006, 05:26 AM
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Yes, but the work is, for the most part, criticizing that. It shows how immature the two lovers are, particularly Romeo, who had, right before falling in love with Juliet, been in love with Rosalind.
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12-01-2006, 07:19 AM
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Meh, I was more annoyed with Hamlet as a character rather than as a play really.... Some things about Shakespeare annoyed me but they were small things really...
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12-01-2006, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Scarecrow
In Romeo and Juilet, considered to be the greatest love story of all time, the characters meet and automatically fall in love (just like real life!)
That alone is enough to make me dislike Shakespeare.
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You've never walked into a party and instantly got the hots for someone?
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12-01-2006, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Scarecrow
In Romeo and Juilet, considered to be the greatest love story of all time, the characters meet and automatically fall in love (just like real life!)
That alone is enough to make me dislike Shakespeare.
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Until you deconstruct it and realize that them falling for each other so stupidly is what got them both killed.
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12-01-2006, 02:30 PM
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Until you deconstruct it and realize that them falling for each other so stupidly is what got them both killed.
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Exactly.And really, I'm not too fond of that play, either. Read Much Ado About Nothing, or else Twelfth Night. Those are awesome.
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