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06-30-2007, 01:01 AM
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This is the exact reason why the majority of horror readers hate his guts. This man can not tell a story, and bogs you down with superfluous descriptions and setting, and writes horrible, stilted dialouge that goes nowhere, and creates pacing a fucking slug can outrun. What action? What characterization? This man should not recieve the praise he recieves. He's like Herman Meville and Mary Shelly.
He's a speck of dust compared to Edgar Allen Poe--the poineer of horror, mystery, and sci-fi. The poineer of short story fiction.
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06-30-2007, 01:04 AM
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06-30-2007, 01:04 AM
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Other overrated authors include Nathaniel Hawthorne and Oscar Wilde. These two should've never even dappled in horror stories. Horrible, atrocious, and utterly boring.
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06-30-2007, 01:07 AM
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It's simple:
Those who try to copy HP Lovecraft style of writing will never be published.
No one will read it. No readers will be interested. No agents will hire you. And no publishers will ever publish your blathering drivel, because it's BORING. How much more truth can I spout?
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07-03-2007, 02:03 AM
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The cthulhu is the single greatest antagonistic octopus-like creature in history.
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07-03-2007, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Truth-Teller
It's simple:
Those who try to copy HP Lovecraft style of writing will never be published.
No one will read it. No readers will be interested. No agents will hire you. And no publishers will ever publish your blathering drivel, because it's BORING. How much more truth can I spout?
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Oh how very ignorant you are, there are almost thousands of authors who replicate and are inspired by his writings. His mythos never died for others kept expanding on it and still continue to do so...
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07-04-2007, 10:16 AM
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I for one LOVE H.P. Lovecraft.
My favourte story has to be, The Colour out of Space.
That's a very good story.
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07-04-2007, 03:26 PM
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I am a big fan of Lovecraft. I have his Tales compilation from the Library of the Americas (the people that put out those great library quality complete versions of certain authors)... It has nearly all the stories/novellas of his that you'd ever want to read, lovingly edited and fixed up by scholar S.T. Joshi.
Mr. Joshi also updated his biography, "Lovecraft: A Life" which is on the shelf with Tales, and is a must read if you wanted to know... anything about the man. A word of warning, it is long and a bit stilted in places, much like the author himself. The reason the other person couldn't find the poetry online is probably because they recently (last ten years) released his complete poetry as The Ancient Track. His fiction for the most part is better, but he even wrote a play, which is included in the book. As for his work and copyrights, I believe the high majority of his short stories, novellas, etc. are in the public domain as so far as the original versions, however the newly edited versions (by S.T. Joshi) are under copyright, so be careful what you are sharing about, if it was transcribed directly out of a pulp from the 20's, you are probably safe, but otherwise, step carefully.
Some people pan him as being a pulp writer of the 20's, but he was writing in a style more akin to the 1870's or so. It was archaic back then is what I am saying.
He has influenced a ton of writers, for better or worse. As others have stated, he was a product of his times, not to condone racism, misogny, or anything else that would be put against him, but people must take into consideration that was the de facto standard for people in his class at the time. And for the record, he hated moving pictures, according to most sources. He would have been a firm believer of the "book was better than the movie" argument. What an amazing character he was though, he was trying his best to be the renaissance man, with all his interest in science, chemistry, philosophy, politics, etc. And he wrote 100,000 letters in his lifetime, some of them 40 pages long. Yes. You read that right. And around 1/5 of them are still around. Crazy stuff.
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07-04-2007, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by J.S.S
Oh how very ignorant you are, there are almost thousands of authors who replicate and are inspired by his writings. His mythos never died for others kept expanding on it and still continue to do so...
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Without Poe, there would be no HP Lovecraft.
Without Poe, there would be no Sherlock Holmes.
And without Poe, there would be no Stephen King.
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07-05-2007, 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Truth-Teller
Without Poe, there would be no HP Lovecraft.
Without Poe, there would be no Sherlock Holmes.
And without Poe, there would be no Stephen King.
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So what? Poe wasn't the first author. So, without ______ there would be no Poe. You either like Lovecraft, or you don't, but millions do, and the guy is dead, so you're in here talking crap, why? What have you had published?
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07-05-2007, 11:08 AM
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I can't speak for Arthur Conan Doyle, but I can say that Lovecraft influenced Stephen King heavily as well as Poe. And yes, Lovecraft was inspired by the writings of Poe, but other authors as well, such as Lord Dunsany, I'd argue he had more influence from Dunsany than Poe, but they were both huge figures in shaping HPL's writing style and genre.
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07-06-2007, 01:11 PM
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Apparently Cthulhu has risen people. The Elder Beings are hungry for blood.
http://starbulletin.com/2007/07/05/news/story03.html
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07-06-2007, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Truth-Teller
This is the exact reason why the majority of horror readers hate his guts. This man can not tell a story, and bogs you down with superfluous descriptions and setting, and writes horrible, stilted dialouge that goes nowhere, and creates pacing a fucking slug can outrun. What action? What characterization? This man should not recieve the praise he recieves. He's like Herman Meville and Mary Shelly.
He's a speck of dust compared to Edgar Allen Poe--the poineer of horror, mystery, and sci-fi. The poineer of short story fiction.
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What are you talking about? Where do you get that the majority of horror readers hate his guts because that is not in the slightest bit true. And what do you mean he can't tell a story? His Dagon/Cthulhu stories are among the best horror stories ever written, even better then any of Poe's. H.P's "Rats in the Wall" was also very good. Sure he's had stinkers but every author has, including Poe(his mysteries in paticular)
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07-29-2007, 02:47 AM
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I am personally a major fan of Mr. H.P.Lovecraft, have been for a few years now. My personal favorite has to be, perhaps surprising being one of his 'minors', What The Moon Brings and Nyarlathotep.
Danny.
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07-29-2007, 05:57 AM
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I haven't read any of his stuff but I am going to try some on for size, all the pictures of the man himself he looks so bookish and not at all like a horror writer would look like (can you imagine Steven King or Clive Barker first thing in the morning they would look like the walking dead)
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