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06-26-2005, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by LensmanZ313
The books in the Cthulhu Mythos are fictional. Yes, you can buy some of those books in the Occult/New Age section at any major bookstore--but they are hoaxes.
Lovecraft. He was a great writer, along with the other Mythos writers, especially Robert E. Howard, Robert Block and Clark Ashton Smith. Lovecraft was something of a racist and anti-Semitic--unfortunately, many people were back in that time.
But, damn, the man could write!
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This is something interesting that is written in the book by Robert Turner:
"Through dreams such as Lovecraft's, contact is established with ancient sources of wisdom forbidden to man. Perhaps his premature death at the age of 47 was precipitated by the fear of what would happen to humanity if certain gates were opened. He knew the secret calls and knew also that one day they would be used again."
The writer of the present commentary would not of course agree that Kenneth Grant was on the right track in his assumptions that Lovecraft's 'revelations' regarding the Necronomicon and Mythos entities were purely based on contacts established through dreams. Readers of our earlier work on the Necronomicon will recall our contention that the young Lovecraft was directly influenced by a manuscript which passed to him from his father. The content of this manuscript in turn inspired the Mythos tales, and gave rise to the astonishing series of dreams which long haunted the writer.
Magical books referred to by novelist are often assumed to be fictitious, purely on the basis that they are included in a work of fiction. If Lovecraft had written serious works on magic instead of horror stories, occultists would have been moved to investigate the implications of the Necronomicon earlier and perhaps been able to trace the book on which his unusual concepts were based.
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06-26-2005, 05:24 AM
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I don't need a heart attack at 15, boyo! o.o;;
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06-26-2005, 05:25 AM
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Lensman I got booted from that site just now.
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06-26-2005, 05:37 AM
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It's up and running . . . maybe you pissed off 'Tulhu . . . .
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06-26-2005, 05:44 AM
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LOL, maybe I did. LOL This happens to me once in a while. I would like to find out why. Many complain about this in computer forums in the hopes of getting some answers. Oh well.
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06-26-2005, 05:48 AM
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My wife--who's a witch, yes a real witch--assures me that Lovecraft's "source materials" are fictional. Like Bush and his "WMDs" . . . .
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06-26-2005, 10:14 AM
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I've been reading a compilation of his short stories over the past week or so, and I've found them almost uniformly superb. I read 'The Colour of Space' late last night and it scared me so much that I got worried about moving into the darker areas of the house to get to bed...
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06-26-2005, 10:28 AM
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Mhm.
I'm sure H.P. Lovecraft would love the horror movies of today. Y'know, with their bastardizing of the horror genre, lame characters, and really, really stupid plots/ideas/everything.
=D Sarcasm.
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06-26-2005, 01:15 PM
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The Necronomicon is a fictional book created by H.P Lovecraft. A few years after his death a magic store wrote "The Necronomicon" to make money.
http://www.hplovecraft.com/creation/necron/
As for Lovecraft being racist, he was a product of his time. Most people back then were racist, I don't think it makes his writing any less great than it is.
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06-26-2005, 02:01 PM
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H.P. Lovecraft is the only horror writer that has successfully made me break into a cold sweat and drink an entire jar of coffee in order not to fall asleep. And then I did fall asleep. I had nightmares for a week.
Call of Cthulu and Rats in the Walls are the best. They scared me to death
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06-26-2005, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LensmanZ313
My wife--who's a witch, yes a real witch--assures me that Lovecraft's "source materials" are fictional. Like Bush and his "WMDs" . . . .
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try not to be a dumbass. Bush claimed there were WMD's because the intelligence he relied on said there were. I'm no more of a Bush fan than most, but he's just a figurehead. All of Lovecraft's ideas were fictional, you see, he was a fiction writer. It doesn't take a "witch" to figure that out.
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06-26-2005, 07:21 PM
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Thanks for the link vos
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06-27-2005, 07:30 AM
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To quote Team America:
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That was bad I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E., very bad I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E.
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INTELLIGENCE is down! Repeat, we have lost our INTELLIGENCE!
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See, Kane, many people . . . especially in occult circles . . . think these books are real. They are not. I asked my wife on her opinion. That's all. Lighten up.
Lovecraft:
I agree with you, Vos. Lovecraft's racism and anti-Semitism were, at that time, encouraged by society. He was married to Sonia Green, a Jew, albeit briefly.
I don't agree with his views; I still consider him to be a great writer and a very important influence on SF, fantasy and horror.
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06-29-2007, 01:57 PM
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How do you pronounce Cthulhu anyway?
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I always pronounced it 'Ca-thul-who'. There's also just 'thul-who'.
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06-29-2007, 02:44 PM
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H.P Lovecraft is one of my favorite authors. I love his descriptive tales and the lack of dialog makes them even better.
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