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Old 01-22-2008, 03:28 AM   #16
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The Bible is the most popular book ever, it is non-fiction it's about real people in nreal time over the eons. To get a charter to prinmt a Bible is like getting a charter to print money, it's a goldmine. Guarranteed to sell. There have been billions of Bibles printed and billions of homes have one, can you say that about any other book? I think not.
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Old 01-22-2008, 03:51 AM   #17
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So you think Adam and Eve were real...and that they lived in a magical garden. And I don't mean the theoretical "first man and woman," I mean specifically Adam and Eve as the bible portrays them.
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Couldn't help but find it funny that a "Whats your favorite book" thread has turned into a reglious debate about the bible, lol.
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Fiction/ Mort-Terry Pratchett
Non-fiction/ Silver sword-(insert author name)
Can't remember who wrote it, read it years and years and years ago.
Sorry for interupting the Bible debate, please continue.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:30 PM   #19
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Malone, I will ask you one question as you seem incredulouse that anyone left alive actually takes the Bible as factual. If the Bible is Holy and if it is God's WORD, as I believe it is, why would I doubt the veracity of the Almighty?

I hope that answers you Malone. I am equally incredulous that people believe we evolved from bacteria that exist in comets from outer space; that these microscopic bateria somehow evolve in to dinasaurs and then human beings as beautiful and compex as we are by random chance. I would rather believe in God Almighty.


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Malone, I will ask you one question as you seem incredulouse that anyone left alive actually takes the Bible as factual. If the Bible is Holy and if it is God's WORD, as I believe it is, why would I doubt the veracity of the Almighty?
Actually, you're fool to think that everything in the bible happened exactly as it is written. There are millions of respected commentaries that say that specific stories in the bible are not meant to be taken literally because there was no other answer as to how or why it was possible - and I don't mean that some preacher in the bible belt said it, I mean respected commentaries like Maimonides, Rashi, Nahmanides, etc.

And the simpler answer to your question lies directly within the question:
"If the Bible is Holy and if it is God's WORD, as I believe it is"
You believe that it is holy, that it is god's word, that doesn't mean that everyone believes that. It's an opinion that's being stated as fact.
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Fiction- Any of the Rumpole of the Bailey series by John Mortimer

Non-Fiction - Hmmm .....
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Non-Fiction : Bible, and it is real, no arguments, if you don't choose to believe in it it's not my problem, have fun with eternal death.

Fiction : Eldest, then Eragon

Absolute best books written, not ripped off in any sense regardless of those who read the critics and immediately believe them.

Anyone who really thinks they're ripped off really loves the books they believe it's ripped off from, and they're just being defensive.
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So you think the earth and everything on it was created in six days? I mean...come on. You say you'd "rather" believe in god. Okay, that's fine, but there is evidence to contradict the things in the bible. The earth is not six thousand years old like the bible says. Man evolved, we didn't just pop up one day. I have no problem with believing in a higher power, but taking the bible literally means to ignore all reason and evidence and rely on what you'd "rather" believe. I'd "rather" believe that I shit money, but that doesn't make it true.
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A FRINGE OF LEAVES, by Patrick White.

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So you think the earth and everything on it was created in six days? I mean...come on. You say you'd "rather" believe in god. Okay, that's fine, but there is evidence to contradict the things in the bible. The earth is not six thousand years old like the bible says. Man evolved, we didn't just pop up one day. I have no problem with believing in a higher power, but taking the bible literally means to ignore all reason and evidence and rely on what you'd "rather" believe. I'd "rather" believe that I shit money, but that doesn't make it true.
I absolutely disagree, in fact, to take the bible literally for me is much more likely then evolving from retarded monkeys(you want to take the bare minimums of the bible, fine, I'll take the bare minimums of Evolution).

Were you aware that there were two ways to carbon date things?

one is the millions of years way, and the other is calculated using the mathematics if a flood from the time of Noah actually came.

Using this calculation, you can't find a single thing on Earth over 6000 years old.
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Also, there is much more evidence to contradict exact things inside evolution then there is to contradict the Bible. Everything, if read properly, fits throughout history in the bible.
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Wow. I'm always amazed at how fucking crazy people are. With views like yours, you should come over to America. We'll make you president!

There was no "great flood." What the bible refers to is one season when the Tigris or the Nile or one of those rivers flooded very, very much, and the king at the time loaded all his stuff onto a boat to save it.
There has never been one piece of evidence found to suggest Jews were enslaved by the Egyptians, nor that any large group of people lived in significant time in the desert.
As for not believing in evolution...I don't think you're giving nature enough credit. Since you obviously don't believe in science, there's really no way to argue this reasonably, so I'll just leave you to your ignorance.

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What amazes me is that people spend the time and money to develop a different way to calculate time. Time doesn't change, love - it's a constant. That method of dating actually depends on time passing slower way back when Noah built an ark and crammed two of everything on there.

If the great flood really did happen, tell me, where's the evidence? We have evidence of the ice age, we have evidence of volcano eruptions and earthquakes that happened well over 6000 years ago, why not this flood which supposedly wiped out everything that wasn't on that boat?

And if nothing dates back more than 6,000 years, what are dinosaurs? An elaborate hoax?
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And how, indeed, did Noah fit two of each species on this fabled ark?
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There's really no point continuing this.
Some people believe facts. Others believe what they want to be true. Neither side will change their minds.
I'm out of this thread.
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