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07-09-2006, 03:49 PM
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Lol, to be honest, Shining was ruined by the Simpsons spoof of it... but I simply don't like SK style, or the fact he sold his soul to commercial profit..
I don't like them, but I'm not going to slate his books and style and cuss him for daring to do what he loves, am I? So I don't think daze should either...
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07-09-2006, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Fantasy of You
I don't like them, but I'm not going to slate his books and style and cuss him for daring to do what he loves, am I? So I don't think daze should either...
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but you sure were quick to cuss me for daring to have an opinion contrary to yours, werent you sunshine? 
as for your intense angst over my dismissal of the novel. if i dont like a book, im going to say i dont like it. and since this is area is called 'Book Reviews', not 'Lets Hold Hands and Pray That Chuck Lets Us Hold His Wee-Wee While He Pees', i think i have every right to.
i reviewed the book honestly, the way i saw it. you're free to do the same. and while youre at it, call me a dick again. its endearing , in a queerish kind of way.
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07-09-2006, 04:29 PM
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well, drew... i think a thread title change is in order. i suggest you pm a mod.
fantasy of you... please refrain from making this personal. strangedaze does have every right to post his opinion in regard to the book in question... if you'd like to argue that opinion that's fine, but please do so without personally insulting other members of the forum.
whoa doggies, let's rope this one back in and bring it back on topic. yee-haw!
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07-09-2006, 04:41 PM
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jen to the rescue. and ive already petitioned to have the thread title changed to:
'strangedaze should be strung up like a side of veal'
has a nice ring to it, yeah?
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07-12-2006, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Fantasy of You
strangedaze- in all due respect, if any is due at all, you need to shut the fuck up.
If you are too narrow minded and cannot appreciate something for it's unique style then do not bitch about it. Chuck has a style different from any other author I have ever written- and i respect him for it. I have read Fight Club and Choke and they are shocking similar- to praise one because you are interested in the plot and call the other one shit because you are not interested in the plot, even though the style and structure are almost identical is shockingly retarded.
If you had the courage to write outside the box like Chuck, or even the skill to write at half his level, perhaps I would take what you have to say more seriously- especialy when you see breaks in tense where none exists.
If you don't like his style, don't read his books, and don't bitch with insane exaggeration about him.
I personally loved every book he wrote, because the style appealed greatly to me.
strangdaze, in short, I have gone from not knowing who you are, to knowing how much of an idiot a person can be.
You don't understand him- so don't pretend to while you take the piss out of him. Dick...
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Tone down the naivete and ignorance my friend. Palahniuk, haha. He's highly overated, and that's being nice. He's developed a cult following mostly due to the work of David Fincher and Jim Uhls. Check out the Fight Club book sales before the movie came out, and see how they escalated as a result (although the movie didn't do too well in the box office either). Oh and I suppose you "understand him". What are you, his husband? Jesus, he's not some tortured genius that everyone picks on and nobody appreciates, he's an average writer with a very tedious writing style that does a lot of research, most of which is random and looks like it took a lot of effort to fit into what kinds of make shift plots he comes up with. Don't get me wrong, I read Fight Club; hell I even own Survivor (I believe this is is best work, but that isn't saying much) and have read Choke, Haunted and am reading Diary right now. Yes that sounds contradictory, but I've gotten in the habit of picking up an author and reading everything by him regardless if I enjoy it or not.
I guess what I'm getting at is that calling someone a dick because they disagree with you is blatently ignorant, and frankly just a flat out dick move. Try and take in some different opinions, it may do you some good. Oh and, I hope you know you did exactly what strangedaze predicted would happen about the Palahniuk die hards coming out in arms. |
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07-12-2006, 09:20 PM
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zing!
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07-12-2006, 11:13 PM
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and since this is area is called 'Book Reviews', not 'Lets Hold Hands and Pray That Chuck Lets Us Hold His Wee-Wee While He Pees', i think i have every right to.
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I think Chuck already has a guy for that. |
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07-13-2006, 08:27 AM
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ha. nice work. ps are you maclaren from lit.org?
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07-13-2006, 11:59 AM
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You know it. Haven't been there for a while, though.
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07-13-2006, 12:04 PM
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me neither. too much drama and not enough feedback.
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06-09-2007, 09:12 AM
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hmm
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07-04-2007, 11:08 PM
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Everyone here keeps reiterating that the area is called "Book Reviews," but most of you aren't even posting your comments on the books. You're insulting the author on a personal and kind of disgustings level, when (and I'm going out on a limb here) I'm going to guess that none of you are actually aquainted with him.
This thread is for people to post their opinions on, and everyone should have the right to say whether or not they personally like the book Choke, and why, but you shouldn't base an author's merit on whether or not they're "overrated," because that's basically saying that they're a bad writer because people like their work.
Also, Palahniuk himself has said that all of his books are about lonely people trying to connect with others. He has said that there's a singular theme present in all of his novels, but that doesn't make his actual stories the same.
Let's see. Choke is about a Christ figure trying to convince himself he isn't a good person, so that he has no expectations to live up to. Fight club is about an antidisestablishment fighting club based around the idea that if self improvment doesn't work, we should try self destruction.
You're right. They're exactly the same. Silly me.
You might also notice that I didn't have to start cussing to express my point of view. I simply used an excess of sarcasm.
Lastly, someone doesn't have to be a "diehard fan" to have an opinion different than your own.
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07-05-2007, 07:45 AM
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Also, Palahniuk himself has said that all of his books are about lonely people trying to connect with others. He has said that there's a singular theme present in all of his novels
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im confused...how is a story about kid masturbating at a bottom of a pool and then getting his intestines ripped out by the filter pump and his sister getting pregnant with his sperm that was in the water create a story about lonely people trying to cnnect with others?
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07-05-2007, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Fantasy of You
strangedaze- in all due respect, if any is due at all, you need to shut the fuck up.
If you are too narrow minded and cannot appreciate something for it's unique style then do not bitch about it. Chuck has a style different from any other author I have ever written- and i respect him for it. I have read Fight Club and Choke and they are shocking similar- to praise one because you are interested in the plot and call the other one shit because you are not interested in the plot, even though the style and structure are almost identical is shockingly retarded.
If you had the courage to write outside the box like Chuck, or even the skill to write at half his level, perhaps I would take what you have to say more seriously- especialy when you see breaks in tense where none exists.
If you don't like his style, don't read his books, and don't bitch with insane exaggeration about him.
I personally loved every book he wrote, because the style appealed greatly to me.
strangdaze, in short, I have gone from not knowing who you are, to knowing how much of an idiot a person can be.
You don't understand him- so don't pretend to while you take the piss out of him. Dick...
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That was mature.
I hate to break it to you, but Palahniuk doesn't write particularly well, and he certainly isn't doing anything new. You like him, good for you, but there's no need for personal attacks. |
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07-05-2007, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy_dude6662
im confused...how is a story about kid masturbating at a bottom of a pool and then getting his intestines ripped out by the filter pump and his sister getting pregnant with his sperm that was in the water create a story about lonely people trying to cnnect with others?
just curious
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Oddly enough, I stopped reading "Haunted" after that chapter. That's only the third book in my life that I didn't finish. |
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