Rhea

Oh no, poor you! I'm real big on preserving books (I like to keep them in really good condition, almost new) I don't know about you but to me, that'd be awful...I have the fourth, fifth and sixth books in first edition...

I started reading Harry Potter way before all the movies were filmed. My aunt got it for me and then I read it and went Potter-crazy. I recommended it to my friends, but unfortunately I'm the only one infected with Potter-mania. *sigh*

Anyway, I absolute adored the sixth book. Squeee for all the romantic stuff in it. Tears for the ending. Oh and I'm a real big Draco Malfoy fan so squeee for the big, big role he played in the book. I'm surprised bout that, but happy all the same. I knew the boy crying was him. Ha. I've read the book twice now, I think. I finished it the first time in less than 24 hours - not constantly reading, including breaks and stuff like that.

Do you think Snape is really a traitor? I believe that he's really on the Order's side...and that he killed you know who on Dumbledore's own orders. There was a whole argument about it on another site...heh. Anyway, if Snape hadn't done it he'd have died. Maybe Dumbledore wanted to save Draco. You know, there was a pretty good chance Draco would decide to go to the Order's side. When Harry called Snape a coward, Snape got really really angry. I don't think he'd have gotten so angry if he'd been a traitor. Rather, if he'd been following orders and killing the one person who believed in him, it'd have taken a lot of courage and Snape would have obhorred being called traitor.

I hope Hogwarts reopens the next year. I'll really miss them not going back to school if that happens. Can't wait for book 7!!

Walker Pierce

My mother, brother, and I had a large (4 hour long, to be precise) discussion on our interpretation of the fourth book, and I won on the point of Snape. At least, I won with my family.

I don't think Snape is a traitor at all, actually. If you think back to the part where Snape is staring at Dumbledore, the headmaster staring back at him, you may surmise that in that brief moment they--masters of the art--could be communicating through Occlumency. Also, when you read the line of Snape's face etched with hatred and revulsion, it is quite easy to figure that he's revulted by the fact that Dumbledore WANTS him to kill him, WANTS him to end his life. As for the reason, I have a few suspicions, but nothing solid, really.

A few passages later, after a brief violent intercourse with Harry on the grounds, Snape actually tells Harry the KEY to defeating Voldemort, the one thing that can actually end the man's mortal life. "Blocked again and again until you LEARN TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT AND YOUR MIND CLOSED."

Voldemort is a master of Occlumency, which is the key to "seeing" what an opponent is going to cast, though the opponent is silent. That's how Snape blocked all of Harry's spells.

Granted, Snape shows a lot of hatred for Harry after killing Dumbledore, but he's obviously pissed as all-****-get-out, and creating such an unbearable hatred in Harry is the most supreme way to push the boy towards killing Voldemort.

I highly believe that Snape will aid Harry--and the Order--in the next book, be it discreetly or openly with his identity.

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Rhea

But it'd be kinda hard, though, seeing as they all believe he is a traitor now. I really hope (if he's on the Order's side, that is) that he somehow manages to prove that he's not a traitor.

And I really hope Snape manages to convince Draco to join the Order (yeah, that's the fangirl speaking ) but I have a sneaking suspicion Draco might have a tragic ending...you know, forced to stay on Voldemort's side anyway, or *gasp* getting killed...

kalibantre

I'm probably gonna get slapped. But.. I really like the story lines but i find myself cringing at some of J.K.Rowling's phrases. Fairly sure she over used the word "beamed" in the last book.

And I think she said that she was done fooling around with what side Snape was on and that was that, but she could have been messing then too. Personally I hope he's on the Order's side, well pissed that sirius died, but maybe thats cause I fell in love with Gary Oldman at a rather young aged..

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Anarosa

has anyone here read and finnished the 5th and 6th books. just wondering.. i dont want to say anything that might ruin the books for you. im a true harry fan too. my dad had to buy 3 copies of every book so that my two siblings and i wouldnt fight over who got to read it first.

this is going way back to the first movie.. but, was anyone else disappointed that they didnt include the sorting hat's song in the beginning.

also (and ive seen these movies way to many times, i own all of them) in the fourth movie, when they are in the tent after the world cup, and mr.weasley runs in. did anyone else notice that he runs into ron (who is being teased by the twins) and ron falls backwards onto the floor. i never noticed it untill this last time i watched it. but once i did see it i had to rewind and couldnt stop laughing.

i have a tendency to think everything ron does is simultaniously hilarious and unbelievably adorable.

i also missed winky. and was annoyed by how they altered the plot and dobby wasnt the one to give harry the gillyweed. it just irked me.


ok, i could go on. but this is long enough as it is

Rhea

Haha I was irked at that too...I thought the fourth movie was too rushed so I didn't really enjoy it as much as I thought I would - over-expectations, I guess. Hmm I never noticed that! Will do the next time I watch GoF

It really irked me how they cut out the World Cup, though - I mean, all that hype and then it was suddenly cut off. If they weren't gonna show it (I mean, it could get expensive couldn't it?) then at least don't make it so...cut off.

I've read the fifth and sixth books, to answer your first question. Read them when they first went out and finished the sixth within 24 hours of buying it (including breaks and sleep ) hehe...personal best lol...

zoecat

Personally, I think the books reached their best at the third, and then got steadily worse. I found the 6th one really boring. It's just Harry and his freinds being all angsty, but there's magic. The romance wasn't even that interesting.

mandax

My favorite book is still the 3rd, probably because my two favorite characters (Sirius and Lupin) are introduced. Of course, the 5th would have been awesome, too, if Sirius hadn't died in the end. *sobs*

I think the movies pale in comparison to the books. The fourth one has been the best, and the third one was absolutely horrible. I do agree that the first Dumbledore was much better than the one we have now. The actor that currently plays Dumbledore is way to aggressive and loud, quite the opposite of how the character is portrayed.

I read the 5th and 6th books in less than two days not separated except for sleeping. You can pretty much assume that I'm obsessed. I went to the midnight release of the 6th book, and I'm planning on doing the same for the 7th.

Anarosa

i did the midnight release too. i am so obsessed its insane. once at lunch my friend was reading an article for science about a scientist/journalist who said that the wizarding gene was recessive and was passed on through males. it made me really really angry. hahaha i was going on and on about how that couldnt be because of the muggle borns and about how he shouldnt write and article about it since hes obviously never read the books. now all my friends think im slightly crazy. haha but i have on friend, natalie, who is just as obsessed. i always read them as soon as they come out (midnight outings at borders) and i usually dont sleep. and i can eat and read at the same time.

you could say im addicted.

the fifth book was a little angsty, i agree. and harry was all "woe is me...." i just wanted to shake him and be like GET OVER IT. but then sirius died....and then i was like mahhhhhhhh! evil j.k. rowling.

i luv sirius....(and lupin too)

btw. i think they picked ugly people to play those two characters. i expected sirius to be much more...attractive. and i expected lupin to look more..feral. i guess

mandax

I completely agree with that statement. Sirius was described frequently in the books as handsome ... and that was not shown in the movie whatsoever.

*was extremely disappointed*

Ha, a group of my friends and I just got done making a Harry Potter parody ... which I find highly amusing. We're ... a little insane.

I used to RP on Harry Potter boards as well. I don't anymore, but man, that used to be like a drug to me.

Anarosa

i see that we have alot in common. haha

yes i was extremely disappointed as well.


however, i do think most of the other casting is wonderful, such as the first dumbledore, and mcgonagal...also madam hooch and deffinately hagrid, snape, hermione, ron, harry. etc.

but they had switched directors on the 3rd movie so i think thats why it was so terrible. thankfully they switched back for the fourth. though it was too rushed. im anxious to see what they do with the fifth book. and maybe they will re-cast sirius?? -fleeting hope-

but if not then atleast they might make him a little less malnourished this time around.

mandax

Yes, I agree that the rest of the casting was very well done.

Yes, the director of the 3rd movie was terrible, and the 4th was much better. I'm actually worried about the 5th movie, because I think they're going to cut out so much that it won't even make much sense. It is one of the longest books, and to confine it to only 2 and a half hours poses a difficult task. I hope it isn't mutilated in the shortening process.

Anarosa

i bet they will probably cut out some of the stuff about the DA. and probably alot of the Order. since its a movie and the last one was mainly action i think they will try to fit in as much of the action from the book as possible. so alot of the plot prolly wont make as much sense. i wish they'd just have like...4 hour showings with an intermission after the first 2 hours. i would pay twice as much to see a movie that way if it meant it would be better and more complete

mandax

Yeah, which is a real shame, because I really love both of those parts. I think the DA is the coolest thing ...

I know, don't people understand that Harry Potter fans are typically OBSESSED and will pay extra to watch a longer version of the movie?? I guess not, right? It would be such an adventure to go to a 4 hour movie. Whatever. Life isn't fair. :/

kalibantre

harry potter fans would go, but the rest of the public who don't care so much wouldn't. And they'd lose a massive amount of money because smaller children go to those films and parents wont want to take them to a 4 hour film.

Also Gary Oldman was perfectly cast as Sirius.. stop being such fan kids.. The films can never truly reflect the books. look at LOTR, X-men, war or the worlds, hitchhikers. sacrafices are always made to make a good film nto a good representation of the books.

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