Thread: The Bible

This is where Revelation talks about the earthquake, dark day, and the moon turning to blood. Revelation 6:12: "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood."

It is used in context of times of the end--another angel is opening another seal. I believe these to be signs of the end of time.

http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm360441.html
http://www.goatview.com/may19darkness1790.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisbon_earthquake

The earthquake mentioned is thought to be the Lisbon Earthquake on November 1, 1755. The other two happened on the same day (May 19, 1780)--Darkness during the day, and then the moon rose blood-red. Just some stuff to think about.

this may be off topic but i saw a program on the history chanel it was on the Bible Code any one ever see it?,it talked about how there was supposed to be hidden prophecy in the bible's text,for example the world is supposed to be hit by a comet in 2012

Originally Posted by Webmaster

There will never be another book as well written or as influential as the bible.

well said.

Originally Posted by 17804

this may be off topic but i saw a program on the history chanel it was on the Bible Code any one ever see it?,it talked about how there was supposed to be hidden prophecy in the bible's text,for example the world is supposed to be hit by a comet in 2012

I think that's the same one I saw. It was pretty interesting. The scientists were split as to whether it was intentional or not, though, which kind of sucked.

Sorry. The Bible Code is a hoax. Fraud. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Code). Here's a quote:

The primary method by which purportedly meaningful messages are extracted is the Equidistant Letter Sequence (ELS). To obtain an ELS from a text, choose a starting point (any letter) and a skip (a number, possibly negative). Then, beginning at the starting point, select letters from the text at equal spacing as given by the skip. For example, the bold letters in this sentence form an ELS for the word SAFEST. (The skip is -4. Spaces and punctuation are ignored.)

Often more than one ELS related to some topic can be displayed simultaneously in an ELS letter array. This is produced by writing out the text in a regular grid, with exactly the same number of letters in each line, then cutting out a rectangle. In the example below, we show part of the King James edition of Genesis (26:5–10) with 33 letters per line. ELSs for BIBLE and CODE are shown. Normally only a smaller rectangle would be displayed, such as the rectangle drawn in the figure. In that case there would be letters missing between adjacent lines in the picture, but it is essential that the number of missing letters be the same for each pair of adjacent lines.

And later . . . .

The primary objection advanced against Bible codes of the Drosnin variety is that similar patterns can be found in books other than the Bible. Although the probability of an ELS in a random place being a meaningful word is low, there are so many possible starting points and skips that many such words are expected to appear. Responding to an explicit challenge from Drosnin, who claimed that only the Bible could yield ELS, Australian mathematician Brendan McKay found many ELS letter arrays in Moby Dick that contain ELSs related to modern events. Other people, such as US physicist Dave Thomas, found other examples in many texts. In addition, Drosnin had used the flexibility of Hebrew orthography to his advantage, freely mixing classic (no vowels, Y and W strictly consonant) and modern (Y and W used to indicate i and u vowels) modes, as well as variances in spelling of K and T, to wrench out the desired meaning. In his television series John Safran vs God, Australian television personality John Safran worked with McCay to look for evidence of the September 11 terrorist attacks on New York in the lyrics of Vanilla Ice's repertoire.

I'll check out the Bad Astronomy boards . . . but many real scientists--not those with degrees from degree mills--scoff at the "2012 predictions" and the comet stories.

Originally Posted by LensmanZ313

Australian mathematician Brendan McKay found many ELS letter arrays in Moby Dick that contain ELSs related to modern events.

Exactly. If people take apart the Bible in mathmatical portions intending to find some sort of code, they are bound to do so. Any books can contain some freak of nature that people think is prophecy. The Bible Code is just a normal occurence.

Leave it to a post involving religion to spawn 5 pages of opinions. Make the religious defend the bible and give them a chance to gently nudge conversion into the picture, and make the atheists feel they have to debunk its validity.

Looking at the bible objectively, as a piece of fiction, I've never been able to read through the whole thing. It's very thick, and mostly boring.

"This bible was placed here by a Gideon."
When? I've been here all day.... what are these people, ninjas?
Where are they from, Gidea?

I'm gonna catch me a gideon....

"hi ... yes ... I don't seem to have a bible in my room...."

(Bill Hicks)

Oh, btw. This month (August 2005), Mars will be passing VERY close to Earth (because of Jupiter's gravitational pull), the closest it has been in 5000 years. Its closest point will be at 12:30am on August 27th (not sure which time zone that is), and Mars will be as clear and as large as a full moon. This won't happen again until 2287. FYI.

Perhaps this is the moon turning to blood! ... the end of the world is nigh!!

and Mars will be as clear and as large as a full moon.

No it won't. Mars is far too small and far too far away for this to happen. Venus is larger than Mars and closer to the Earth than Mars, and it has never been this large in the sky.

And that is a hoax as well. In 2003 it came close, apparently, but not this year.

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/mars-earth-close.html

I read the link. Bummer. That's too bad.

I thought it sounded a little unreasonable (as big as the moon), but who knows? It could have been some effect of light refraction or something.

Just passing on the word. Too bad it's a hoax.

Jesus, I don't know why the Hell anyone would want god-forsaken quotes, even if it was a baptism of fire, because you're likely to be nailed to the cross if you do! Of course, you could pulll a pilate & rub your hands of any sacrificial omens & quote a few proverbs or sing a psalm while you wait for your personal garden of eden to arrive like some second coming. You don't have a prayer of avoiding the demons that come. You'd need the wisdom of solomon to carry your cross up that hill.