Thread: 600-page Fatwa

Here's something interesting. A "respected" Islamic leader has produced a 600-page Fatwa, in which terrorism and suicide bombing is condemned. Apparently he cites numerous sources that are centuries old in order to support his position. I'm assuming that the Qur'an is not among them, since it specifically states that non-believing non-Muslims are fair game. But whatever the case, here's the real kicker: this guy lives in hiding somewhere in Ontario, Canada because he fears retaliation from people who disagree with him.

Islamization Watch: Determined Islamic leader issues 600 page fatwa against suicide bombings

Now watch all the little knee-jerks react to this post with comments of their own and inspire the OP to keep the thread going. Fools, all of you, if you do. Do what I do, and ignore it.

Sorry Ox, I can't help myself...

Originally Posted by Teve Torbes

A "respected" Islamic leader

Wht the inverted commas? He's either respected, or he's not.

Originally Posted by Teve Torbes

has produced a 600-page Fatwa, in which terrorism and suicide bombing is condemned.

Is that in some way unusual? Most Islamic leaders will actually agree with him. Radical fundamentalists actually make up a tiny fraction of Islam. I suspect you'll find more christians in favour of (governments) bombing the shit out of Muslim civilians than you will Muslims who support terrorism.

Originally Posted by Teve Torbes

I'm assuming that the Qur'an is not among them, since it specifically states that non-believing non-Muslims are fair game.

I'm guessing you've not read the Qu'ran, or the many subsequent Hadiths. It specifically does not state anything of the kind.

Originally Posted by Teve Torbes

Here's something interesting. A "respected" Islamic leader has produced a 600-page Fatwa, in which terrorism and suicide bombing is condemned. Apparently he cites numerous sources that are centuries old in order to support his position. I'm assuming that the Qur'an is not among them, since it specifically states that non-believing non-Muslims are fair game. But whatever the case, here's the real kicker: this guy lives in hiding somewhere in Ontario, Canada because he fears retaliation from people who disagree with him.

Islamization Watch: Determined Islamic leader issues 600 page fatwa against suicide bombings

it might be of interest to you, but it's boring the fuck out of me

transparent as glass looking at the moon; pity about the clouds

Originally Posted by Mike C

I'm guessing you've not read the Qu'ran, or the many subsequent Hadiths. It specifically does not state anything of the kind.

Don't tell me you're denying that the Qur'an specifically states that violence can/should be used against non-believers. Let's not even go down that road. Certainly if you've read the Qur'an, you'd know that it really does.

It may also be of interest to know that in 2004, for example, 41% of Muslims in Pakistan believed that the use of suicide bombing against civilians was "justified".

teves, if you insist on continuing with your obsession here at writing forums of all things islam, muslim and wankan, please provide citations to your rhetorical propoganda - i would then have something to go on, rather than it coming across as just an opinion - thanks

Originally Posted by ash somers

teves, if you insist on continuing with your obsession here at writing forums of all things islam, muslim and wankan, please provide citations to your rhetorical propoganda - i would then have something to go on, rather than it coming across as just an opinion - thanks

How about: Don't feed the troll?

Originally Posted by ash somers

teves, if you insist on continuing with your obsession here at writing forums of all things islam, muslim and wankan, please provide citations to your rhetorical propoganda - i would then have something to go on, rather than it coming across as just an opinion - thanks

Your post demonstrates the general problem that the general public seems to have when understanding Islam. The information is readily available. It comes from a major research study that you could easily find yourself. Yet you deny that it's the truth, which I guess makes your life easier because it gives you the liberty to deny what is going on around you. Because of Islam, our rights have been steadily eroding and are increasingly at risk from domestic terrorism. Twenty years ago, the idea that Islamic terrorists could launch a major attack against North America was the stuff of pulp fiction. It is now a reality, and will now always be a matter of when not if.

I used plastic wrap to air-tight seal my house so when the chemical attack comes I'll be ready. I also always wear a parachute when in tall buildings.

Oh, and I converted my swimming pool into a fallout bunker. It's stocked with plenty of Chinese toothpaste and dog food. And Pringles.

I took my digger out the other day with the intention of digging the foundation for a septic tank, but when it came time for a tea break, I started reading an article on the proximity of Islamic terrorists to Ireland. So frightening was it that I immediately jumped up from the table and set about converting my foundation for the septic tank into one for a fallout shelter. It is a work-in-progress.

I am also in the process of purchasing five thousand boxes of MREs, two thousand bottles of Tipperary spring water (which is about as natural as the stuff that comes from my tap), and several back-issues of Playboy.

In the event of nuclear war, I shall be utterly safe in my ersatz bunker constructed with a lock of bricks I stole from the last building site I frequented. Should bombs be dropped in or around my vicinity, I shall stick my head between my legs and kiss my arse goodbye, knowing that I have Teve Torbes' warning to thank for saving me from Islamic extremists, only to have my arse blown to bits by a stray bomb.

I took my digger out the other day with the intention of digging the foundation for a septic tank, but when it came time for a tea break, I started reading an article on the proximity of Islamic terrorists to Ireland. So frightening was it that I immediately jumped up from the table and set about converting my foundation for the septic tank into one for a fallout shelter. It is a work-in-progress.

Good call. The chances of terrorists setting off a nuke in Ireland are much higher than the chances of you using the bathroom.

Teve, it’s a no-brainer that a small faction of Islam does pose some threat as far as terrorism is concerned. I think most of us here are aware of that, and believe our respective governments should exercise due diligence -- react appropriately without over reacting – and in a way that doesn’t infringe on the rights of citizens. I’m sure we could all have a lively discussion about just how we should be going about that -- how much is enough, how much is too much, etc.

Does anyone here think radical Islam poses absolutely no threat? I don’t think so. The thing is, I don’t think anyone here gives a shit what you have to say about it. You’ve got some agenda to push, although you’ve never said outright what it is. I don’t think you’ve even once said specifically what you think our governments or any of us should be doing differently – not that I care what your opinion is at this point. You’ve just railed against Islam in general. And any idiot can do that.

Personally, I try to stay informed and keep things in perspective. That doesn’t mean I don’t take the threat of radical Islam seriously. I just don’t take you seriously. And it should be pretty clear by now that not many other folks here do either. So, I'm suggesting that you quit wasting your time here with this issue -- and go bark up some other tree.

P.S. -- I've smashed all my Cat Stevens CD's, if that makes you feel better.

Maybe, as someone else suggested, he really is Truth Teller in disguise. It's a similar voice.

Sam, what's a lock of bricks?