Thread: Twilight - should I keep reading??

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Originally Posted by Ungood

anything you want share, you keep bring this up.

I didn't know you spoke Chinese.

Originally Posted by wolfe:)

How can you say that about the series? Twilight is one of the best books/series ever written. You can't appreciate it if you have only read 10 pages for a start, you have to at least read the first two chapters before you can make a judgement. Although there are a lot of them around, it is a romeo and juliet story and trust me, it is a lot better than the original.

This is one of the funniest, most ignorant comments I've read in years. Let me ask you something: Have you ever read Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet? To say that Stephanie I-don't-know-how-to-write Meyer is even in the same stratosphere as a man considered by millions to be the best writer in the history of the English language, is an absolute joke. And I pity you if you think that way.

You cannot possibly say that Meyer is a shit writer due to all the success she has had based on the books and now the movies.

Success does not define a good writer. There are best-selling novels that aren't fit to be used as bog roll. Twilight is one of them. It's a best-seller because thousands of emo teens (female mostly) want to fantasise about being with Edward. How pathetic is that?

Twilight is worth reading and there are millions who would agree with me.

And I'd say those millions don't know what good writing is. Of the people in this thread who hate Twilight, I'm probably the only one who's fully read the first book -- just to see if it got any better towards the end. And, to be quite honest, it got worse.

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I am absolutely sorry to say that I don't like books. I watch movies and never every leave any movie which specially came in my mind. I was suggested by my sister to read the first book, I started reading the book and get hooked up with the book. I don't know how this happens. Now I am desperate to complete all four as soon as possible.

When I saw the trailer for the first movie, I decided to read the first book. I genuinely enjoyed it. The second one however lost me with all the Jacob stuff but it translated better to the movie for me. So I only enjoyed the beginning and end of the book. Half way through the third, I stopped reading. I decided I'd rather watch the movie than read it. The first and second movie was pretty good but the CGI werewolves took me out of it. Other than that, they were decent. Didn't care for the third. I am looking forward to the fourth (& fifth) movie though since I haven't read the fourth book. I do think the movies would have worked better if they combined the books and made one sequel or made it a trilogy. Dragging it out just really shows how mediocre the story and books are.

I liked the books, not the best reading material I have ever picked up but they let me just drift off into my mind without having to overthink (which is nice sometimes as I am a chronic over-thinker most of the time).
If you're not enjoying it after the first 100 pages just stop, it will end up feeling like a chore and every time you pick it up your mind will sigh, here we go again! I've had this with a couple of authors that people have recommended to me and I just could not get into them.

I did enjoy the books. They're what I like to think of as lunch hour reading. Great in the breakroom at work but I didn't need to read them five hours straight after I got home work. The romance aspect of the books has always been heightened to almost parody like proportions but if memory serves b/c I haven't read it in a few years but didn't Romeo & Juliet take place over the course of several days and have the title characters meet, fall in love, marry, consumate marriage, and commit suicide all while unraveling two warring families and fair Verona?

And to be clear, yes Shakesphere is a superior writer to Stephaine Meyers, and I bet the author would tell you that herself, and Romeo & Juliet has more literary value than Twilight. But all fiction books exist in a heightened reality to some degree and I don't think Twilight should be bashed solely on the basis of the romance plotlines.

Just my opinion. To each their own.

Rest assured, Twilight isn't bashed solely on the basis of the romance plot lines. There's plenty to bash, the lousy writing being one among many.

Twilight? It's shit. Plain and simple.
The grammar is awful (misusing words, sentence fragments, badly used commas, horrible sentence structures...), the prose is urple ("-his scillianting arms-" what kid talks like this?!), the characters are stereotypical (the teens, the Cullens, the natives...) and shallow at best (the main romance is based around looks and smells), plain evil at worst (Lemme see... Bella Swan -shrugs away the deaths of hundreds at the hands of her loved one, mercilessly strings as much as three guys along at once-, Edward Cullen -killer of hundreds with no remorse, abusive and obsessive-, Carlisle -turns several people into undead monsters [that might very well end up roasting in hell for all he knows] against their will instead of letting them die at peace-, Esme -rejoicing in the fact that her "son" might end up killing an innocent girl as long as Esme knows he isn't gay-...), the plot is nonexistent for the first 200+ pages, the romance is shallow & unrealistic and the factual inaccuracies are near unbelievable. [/rant] Sorry about that, it's just... There's too much wrong in these books for me to explain them all in one message. I'll shut up about it now, I know this discussion has gotten too big. Short answer to anyone asking whether or not to read twilight? It's not worth it. You can check out the masses of recaps and snarkings done of it though, those are great for laughs and explain my points in more detail...
All around, I can't say I wish it hadn't been published: it's the perfect example of what not to do. Some people have pointed out in this thread that we should let it go, and sure, they're right: it's just a book. What I disagree on is whether or not these arguments are productive. As I said, Twilight is the perfect example of bad, unlikable characters and poor storytelling, as well as bad writing in general - it's worth studying and learning about, since by understanding what Meyer did wrong (and right: let's face it, she did make it into a franchise) we can avoid making the same mistakes ourselves.

No surprise that this thread has a ton of replies.

I approached Twilight with a fairly open mind and didn't read it carefully, practically skimmed it, and was therefore able to say I didn't mind the first three books. I certainly didn't see why everyone and their mother (literally) had gone absolutely off their rockers about it, but I didn't hate them. However, the last book, as aptly described by my friend, is "crack fic." Really dreadful. Really, really dreadful. And, upon closer inspection, I did find that all the books are positively riddled with errors of all kinds. If you're really bored, go for it, but I would definitely recommend Jane Eyre over Twilight.

Originally Posted by wolfe:)

... Although there are a lot of them around, it is a romeo and juliet story and trust me, it is a lot better than the original ...

Shakespeare didn't write romance.

He wrote tragedies, comedies, and histories.

Romeo & Juliet was a tragedy. The point of the story was how the two feuding families brought about so many unnecessary deaths.

I love Shakespeare.

However, I have never looked at Romeo & Juliet as a love story. In fact, to me, the young couple (like Edward and Bella) had an unhealthy and obsessive relationship ... which I suppose, combined with the drama, would explain its appeal.

Originally Posted by Split_Infinity

I approached Twilight with a fairly open mind and didn't read it carefully, practically skimmed it, and was therefore able to say I didn't mind the first three books. I certainly didn't see why everyone and their mother (literally) had gone absolutely off their rockers about it, but I didn't hate them. However, the last book, as aptly described by my friend, is "crack fic." Really dreadful. Really, really dreadful. And, upon closer inspection, I did find that all the books are positively riddled with errors of all kinds. If you're really bored, go for it, but I would definitely recommend Jane Eyre over Twilight.

Read it when ill in bed. First three books were a bit ditzy dumb, but tolerable (for someone with nothing better to do). The last book was off the planet stupid. It seems to be the trend though. I rather wonder whether its a case that nobody in the industry gives a damn about the final product. All of the popular books in recent times seems to have major basic faults; from growing moronically stupid plots, to non-individualization of characters.
But I guess that those things are of little importance on the bookshelves.

Keep reading. Finish the book, even the series if you can stomach it. That way, when debating with someone about why you don't like it, they can't fire off "Well you didn't even read the books!" Ignorance is not the way to go.

I read all of them and managed to survive. Actually the beginning of "New Moon" is decent. Not fantastic, but tolerable. And then it gets all retarded in the end.

I simply prefer not to be ignorant, but that's my choice. Do whatever you like. The best part about bad books is that you can walk away!